Template:Did you know nominations/Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah


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The result was: rejected by  MPJ  -DK 01:11, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

 * ...that variations of the taunting chant Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, based on a descending minor third, are employed by children across Europe and North America?


 * Reviewed: Thomas Detry
 * Comment: Just to expound on how this is ref'd: Leonard Bernstein says its employed by children everywhere, John Wells wasn't able to find instance outside European culture -- so Bernstein by Wells (specifically "nuh-nuh (3)") is the ref. (Also, don't be put off by the plethora of citation needed tags -- they are numerous because I used a list and tagged every statement. I included the statements because they are almost surely true, supported by anecdotal evidence (mostly Wells's correspondents) which can't be used as refs, so awaiting better refs.)

Created by Herostratus (talk). Self-nominated at 20:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC).

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 * Symbol question.svg - Sorry but "don't be put off" does not work here. This cannot go to the front page looking like this with 13 citation needed tags, that is totally against the rules of DYKs, please pay attention to the "sourced" criteria.  MPJ  -DK  21:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I could have reduced the citation needed down to about two (by formatting the material differently and tagging just at the end of the paragraph) or to none, by removing the material. IMO either of those would make the article worse, since the material is almost certainly true and just needs better citations (which I haven't been able to find). I guess my view is it's more important that it be a decent article than appear at DYK, so fine, bump it. Herostratus (talk) 21:18, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg - Quoting the rules my friend, and even two "citation needed" tags would be too much. I agree that it's better to have a good article, but to me attributables sources are a big part of what makes a decent article.  MPJ  -DK  23:13, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Did not see the citation-needed tag limit, but OK. Herostratus (talk) 01:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Any way a click-to-play audio clip could be used in the hook (in the lead slot, instead of the usual image)? Paging .  E Eng  06:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Symbol delete vote.svg WP:DYKSG D6: The article is likely to be rejected for unresolved edit-warring or the presence of dispute tags. (Removing the tags without consensus does not count.) Even if it weren't for the citation tags, I grew up in the United States...in several geographical areas that included the southern United States.  I have never heard "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" but have heard the common "Nah nah nah nah nah nah" and "nyah nyah...nyah nyah" which can mean two totally different things. "Neener neener neener" is something I've not heard in real life but recall hearing on TV. It perhaps is a form the more common "nayner, nayner, nayner" (which used to be more Pacific coast USA area). "Nanny nanny boo boo" is not something I ever heard.  Every place and each generation has its own idiomatic phrasing, even within states or from one metropolis to the next. I wish you luck with this good-faith article, but I don't think it's ready for DYK, and is more a linguistics area for expansion.— Maile  (talk) 18:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)