Template:Did you know nominations/Oxalaia


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Oxalaia

 * ... that at 12-14 metres (39 to 46 ft), Oxalaia is the largest known theropod dinosaur from Brazil? Source: "It is further the largest theropod recovered from Brazil so far" & "Fused premaxillae of a very large individual (ca. 12-14m, 5-7 tons)"
 * Comment: I helped get it to GA about 7 days ago, I hope I'm not too late.
 * Comment: I helped get it to GA about 7 days ago, I hope I'm not too late.

Improved to Good Article status by PaleoGeekSquared (talk). Self-nominated at 01:55, 13 May 2018 (UTC).


 * It's nominated within 7 days of passing GA so you're not too late. Long enough, and within policy with regards to neutrality, citation, copyright. Note that Earwig found a hit, but I believe it's false positive, looks like the similarity is because the original version of the Dinopedia article was based on the 2011 version of Wikipedia, see . No QPQ requirement because it's your first nomination. Image has proper license. Regarding the hook, the source only says "largest theropod" and it's not obvious to me how one can infer it's the "largest carnivorous dinosaur", can you clarify? HaEr48 (talk) 03:07, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Non-avian Theropods were a primarily carnivorous order of dinosaurs, furthermore, Spinosauridae (the taxonomic family Oxalaia is in), had a purely carnivorous diet of fish and occasionally other small vertebrates.  ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼   (Contribs)  03:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I still don't get it, even if Theropods are primarily carnivorous, doesn't mean that the largest Theropod is the largest carnivorous dinosaur. There can be other carnivorous dinosaurs that are not Theropods that's larger than Oxalaia. It's still possible that Oxalaia is the largest known carnivorous dinosaur, but in Wikipedia we need a source so that a non-expert like me can verify. HaEr48 (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you didn't understand my comment, let me clarify. Carnivorous dinosaurs are only found in the theropod group, so there isn't really such a thing as a carnivorous dinosaur that's not a theropod.  ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼   (Contribs)  18:10, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "Carnivorous dinosaurs are only found in the theropod group, so there isn't really such a thing as a carnivorous dinosaur that's not a theropod" => If you could add such a statement with reliable sources, either in Theropoda or Oxalaia then it will be good for me. Maybe it's obvious for you, but one of the main policies off wikipedia is that "other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. ". HaEr48 (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * How about I just change it to theropod, just to avoid confusion. I could go on and on about how it is a generally well known fact with dinosaurs that only theropods are carnivores, despite some having evolved omnivorous/herbivorous diets (e.g. birds or therizinosaurids). But it seems like a bit too much trouble for one word in a DYK.  ▼PσlєοGєєк ƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼   (Contribs)  20:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go now. The matter is not whether it's common knowledge for dinosaur experts, it's whether a reader unfamiliar with the field could verify it. If you choose to go with theropod, no objection from me. Thanks for your understanding. HaEr48 (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)