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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 20:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Percina roanoka

 * ... that the Roanoke Darter is in no danger of mysteriously disappearing from its habitat?


 * Reviewed: Seriatopora hystrix

Created by Spirit of Eagle (talk). Self-nominated at 04:39, 9 May 2015 (UTC).


 * Newly created, long enough. Article is within policy, things are cited and not plagarized. Hook is short, interesting and sourced, but I'll prefer "darter" to be un-capitalized. No image - but an image is available, isn't it? Additional queries - I think it's worth mention that the white fins have transparent membranes. Also, the colours of the sides of the fish weren't mentioned. -- starship.paint  ~ ¡ Olé !  12:58, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg I'm sorry, but I looked in vain in the article for anything about the non-mysterious nature of the non-possibility of sudden non-existence of this non-threatened species. What is the hook actually trying to say? EEng (talk) 19:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * ALT2 ... that Roanoke darters can produce hybrids with sharpnose darters?
 * The cited part was the fact that its not in any danger of extinction. I thought it was somewhat ironic that a fish that shared a name with a vanished colony had stable population trends, but this was apparently really subtle. As for the image, its rectangular shaped and I think it would look really distorted at 100x100. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 21:46, 10 May 2015 (UTC) Also, I updated the article with information about the transparent membranes and coloration of the sides. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 21:52, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm embarrassed to say I utterly missed the Roanoke reference. It is a bit subtle, but it would be fine if there was some way to put something in the article to relieve the reader's puzzlement. Problem is I don't think there's any way to do that. EEng (talk) 02:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, I'm glad it's not just me who didn't get it! I thought they were just talking about extinction. Sheesh. Bali88 (talk) 02:45, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

How about:


 * ALT3 ... that the Roanoke Darter is in no danger of mysteriously disappearing from its habitat unlike the Island's previous inhabitants?
 * I think we should go with hook 2. The original hook was meant to be ironic since it contrasted the mysterious disappearance of the Roanoke settlers with the continued presence of the Roanoke darter in its habitat. It doesn't really work as a hook if it needs to be explained to people why they should find it so ironic. Plus, there would have to be sources connecting the settlers with the fish if we make a direct reference to the colony (no such sources actually exist). Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * What if we kept it as the first one and just wikilinked mysteriously disappearing to Roanoke colony for those of us who are more dense? I like it better than the hybrid one. Bali88 (talk) 03:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * ALT4 ... that the Roanoke darter is in no danger of mysteriously disappearing from its habitat?
 * Since the reader can unpuzzle himself by clicking the non-bolded link, I think this is OK. EEng (talk) 04:20, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No objections from me. I couldn't find any rules expressively prohibiting the hook, and the claim that the darter isn't going to mysteriously disappear in a definitive fact supported by a link to a reliable source. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:24, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, the article is fine now, but I have a further suggestion; wiki-link "no danger" in ALT4 to Least-concern species. Then I would approve. starship.paint  ~ ¡ Olé !  11:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Done. Bali88 (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT4 - nice work, all! I also decided to un-capitalize darter. starship.paint  ~ ¡ Olé !  02:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)