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Phil Cronan

 * ... that when Phil Cronan moved to play for St Kilda, a Supreme Court injunction to prevent his transfer was rejected by the judge who said that football wasn't sufficiently important?
 * Reviewed: Suhaimi Yusof

Created/expanded by The-Pope (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 21 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg and lengths both good. Hook fact and facts sourced to online sources check out and portions of article sourced to online references accepted as per AGF.  problem is with presentation of the hook fact in the article.  The article uses a quotation that is implicitly attributed to the ruling judge.  The supporting newspaper article does not however show this quote but instead reads as though the quoted statement is the reporter`s words and not those of the judge.  Verbage needs to either be changed to remove the "judge`s" quote or else a new source showing the judge actually made the quoted statement needs to be added. --Allen3 talk 15:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reworded to the sentence in the article to avoid the direct quote. I was going to change the hook to use "the matter" instead of "football", but if you read the original source article, he does make numerous comments about football not being as important as other causes, so I think that it is still valid to be used as a hook. The-Pope (talk) 05:44, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Replacing a false quotation with plagiarism is not a viable solution as shown with these two blocks of text:
 * From the article:
 * The judge, Justice Kaye, refused to hear the application to issue an injunction, stating that the matter was not sufficiently important to take precedence over other matters.
 * From the source:
 * MrJustice Kaye yesterday refused to hear an application for an interlocutory injunction to restrain St Kilda footballers Phil Narkle and Phil Cronan from playing with the VFL, saying the matter was not sufficiently important to take precedence over other matters.
 * The article edit history shows all you did to the quote is remove the quotation marks. Please reword the original quote using your own words and not those of the newspaper reporter. --Allen3 talk 21:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Rev 3. I've re-written the paragraph again to put the actual quotes in and describe (in my words) the context. The-Pope (talk) 00:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svglms appear to be resolved. Good to go. --Allen3 talk 13:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)