Template:Did you know nominations/Philip Lindsley


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The result was: promoted by Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:57, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Philip Lindsley

 * ... that Philip Lindsley declined the presidencies of Princeton, Transylvania University, Ohio University, and Dickinson College, but accepted the job at the University of Nashville?
 * Comment: Not a selfnom
 * Comment: Not a selfnom

Created by Zigzig20s (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 15:09, 26 March 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough, long enough, contains appropriate citations, does not contain plagiarism or close paraphrasing, and deals with the subject in a neutral manner. Hook is properly formatted, short enough, and neutral. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 03:21, 27 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg Article was approved while it still had an "under construction" banner on it; articles must be stable before they can be approved for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg I have removed the "under construction" template; there's no indication that the creator is actively working on this any more (aside from trying to get somebody else to upload images to Commons for inclusion in the article). --Orlady (talk) 12:58, 27 March 2014 (UTC) I restored the tick -- I hope BlueMoonset doesn't object... --Orlady (talk) 18:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Orlady, it's your nomination—there's never a valid reason for you putting in a tick on it, since it means you're approving your own nomination. If you need me to do it, you can come to my talk page and nudge me to do something, but I'm very surprised to see this. Having looked at the article, while there are a few discrepancies between the sources, I see two problems with the current Career subsection that I'd like to see corrected before this is approved: the second sentence includes the phrase "effective a year later": FN4 says "effective at once", FN3 says he arrived Christmas 1824 and began his presidency on the New Year [January 1, 1825]—but seems to indicate that the name change wasn't official until the charter was amended in November 1826, which is almost two years later. FN1, though not cited here, mentions his acceptance of the job in 1824 and the name change "the next year". The other issue is in the paragraph's final sentence, which states that Lindsley's second son John became the University of Nashville's president in 1855; the source doesn't actually say which son he was, but this very article's Personal life section lists three sons in chronological order—Adrian, Nathaniel, and John Berrien—all of whom were alive in 1855 based on their dates. Also, FN4 gives the name of a daughter of John's as Louise; the family section says there was one daughter named Annie. While FindaGrave isn't a reliable source, it's used in the John Berrien Lindsley article to credit him with six children, though I only see four listed, including both Louise and Annie. Based on FindaGrave, I'd guess at four children: three daughters, all of whom lived into old age, and a son who was probably born years after them and died that same year. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:00, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've edited the article to address those concerns (and some others).
 * As for why I restored the tick: I did that because your only objection had been to the "under construction" template (something that some contributors perfunctorily add to every article they work on). That was a nonsubstantive concern, and it didn't seem reasonable to let a nom sit on the noms page for days (particularly when approved hooks are in short supply) waiting for a third party to come by and certify that this inconsequential template had actually been removed. --Orlady (talk) 05:23, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Issues addressed, plus I've fixed a place where the lede disagreed with the body. I'm not sure how 30 hours is "for days" (and a quick ping would have kept it from becoming so); as it turns out, there were other issues with the article, ones I hadn't checked for at the time I pulled it from prep because of the very clear one. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yikes -- I didn't realize this had gone to prep with the template on it... Thanks for the thorough review. --Orlady (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Suggestion: change "presidencies at" to "the presidencies of". Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:02, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm fine with that. Orlady, if you agree, feel free to modify the hook rather than create a new ALT if you want to, or you can make a new ALT which I'll be happy to tick as a replacement. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:05, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ That's the kind of minor wording change that we often make in prep areas and in the queue. My only concern was verifying that it didn't cause the hook to exceed 200 characters. --Orlady (talk) 04:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)