Template:Did you know nominations/Principality of Nitra


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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Principality of Nitra

 * ... that after its ruler Pribina (pictured) was expelled from the region, the Principality of Nitra became one of the most important centers of administration  within Great Moravia?

Improved to Good Article status by Borsoka (talk). Nominated by 3family6 (talk) at 14:22, 14 June 2014 (UTC).


 * Hook is a bit vague. Belle (talk) 09:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I have updated the hook since Belle's comment. If the hook is still unclear, please let me know. I will look for alternative hooks as well.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 01:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I will note that most of the political history is uncertain and confusing. Most of the article presents various theories about the status of the Principality within Hungary and Greater Moravia.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 01:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg I hate to step on your toes,, but I could do with a QPQ and the article hasn't been reviewed yet. Obviously long enough, new enough, QPQ unnecessary as not a self-nom, no copyvios found. I agree that the hook is vague; I checked the history of this nom and reincluding the phrase "territorial" in an ALT, as the context of the article implies, I will approve it.-- Laun  chba  ller  09:28, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I hate it when people step on my toes, especially if we aren't dancing. No, you're fine, I don't own any reviews. Belle (talk) 23:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * ALT 1 ... that after its ruler Pribina (pictured) was expelled from the region, the Principality of Nitra became one of the most important territorial centers within Great Moravia? -- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 21:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I've supplied an alt above.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 21:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go.-- Laun  chba  ller  11:57, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this from prep because it seems clear that scholars disagree about who Pribina was etc., so I think a more accurate hook needs to be found. Gatoclass (talk) 03:26, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT 2 ... that after the ruler Pribina (pictured) was expelled from the region, the Principality of Nitra became one of the most important centers of administration  within Great Moravia?


 * Comment: This alt I changed "its ruler" to "the ruler". Though there is debate about who Pribina was, all the sources indicate he was a ruler of some kind.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 13:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT 3 ... that the Hungarians invaded Greater Moravia, including the Principality of Nitra, around the year 900?


 * Comment: This one does not have a picture.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 13:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT 4 ... that most of the history of the Principality of Nitra remains uncertain?

ALT 5 ... that most of the history of the Principality of Nitra (Pribina of Nitra pictured) remains uncertain?


 * Comment: Alts 4 and 5 are the same, but alt 5 uses the picture of Pribina's statue.-- &iquest;3fam  ily6  contribs 13:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check all four new ALT hooks, especially in light of the issues for previous hooks, and also considering the usual criteria such as sourcing and whether it's interesting. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg ALT4 is the best bet for me. The actual statement, "Its history remains uncertain", is cited inline to an offline source accepted AGF, and the discussion throughout the article – especially the cited list of historians debating who exactly Pribina is in the third paragraph under "Pribina (before c. 833)", and the graph titled "List of proposed princes or dukes of Nitra" – underscores the uncertainty in the history every step of the way. The article is certainly interesting and well-referenced, being a recent GA. No QPQ needed for non-self-nom. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)