Template:Did you know nominations/Providence Milwaukie Hospital

Providence Milwaukie Hospital

 * ... that Providence Milwaukie Hospital in Oregon is licensed for 77 beds, but only keeps 66 beds available?
 * Reviewed: Oscar Trigo Aboutmovies (talk) 07:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nominated at 09:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC).


 * Kindly explain why is this hook, that illustrates a general situation, "interesting"? It seems that a large proportion of hospitals in that excel spreadsheet linked as a citation are "under-capacity". Although one has 5 more beds than licensed, some are very significantly more under capacity than the PMH both in percentage terms and in number of beds. --  Ohc  ¡digame! 09:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Did you know this before you looked at the source? It is common, but I don't think it is common knowledge outside of hospital folks, which is what makes it interesting to general readers. That's the rub with hooks and the "interesting" requirement, is that it is totally subjective. What you find interesting I may not, and vice versa. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The "interesting" requirement unfortunately pulls in a lot of junk, like tabloidism and use of unrepresentative quotes. While it's true that there's usually over-utilisation of resources rather than under-utilisation in state medical provision, under-utilisation deserves a mention. But when the majority of items on a list indicate it's a general state of affairs, it certainly makes it a lot less "interesting". Especially when the subject is a small hospital with only 77 beds potentially. --  Ohc  ¡digame! 02:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But you didn't answer my question, if you knew this before looking at the source. If you did not know this, then I think that lends credence to this not being common knowledge, and in my opinion, interesting. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Needs a full review. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:57, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree that the original hook is soporific. Suggested alts:
 * ALT1: ... that Providence Milwaukie Hospital was named one of America's top 100 hospitals in 2004?
 * ALT2: ... that Providence Milwaukie Hospital was originally private but became a community facility only three years after construction? Gatoclass (talk) 09:40, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Reviewing now... Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  22:38, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol voting keep.svg for ALT2, which is my preferred hook; Symbol confirmed.svg for ALT1. The article was created on 29th November and was nominated within the 5-day timeframe; it is long enough, beyond Stub-size and well-sourced, principally to newspaper and magazine articles and state government documents.  Ref [15] (the 2013 databank) gave me a "page not found" error, so I can't formally verify the original hook—although the same info is available in the 2012 databank ref anyway.  I strongly recommend using ALT2 or ALT1 though.   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  23:26, 22 December 2013 (UTC)