Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Duncan (pilot)


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Robert Duncan (pilot)

 * ... that the first time a Mitsubishi A6M Zero was shot down by a Grumman F6F Hellcat was when ensign Robert Duncan scored his first aerial victory after shooting down flying ace Toshiyuki Sueda, who had previously downed nine Grumman F4F Wildcat? Hata, Ikuhiko; Izawa, Yashuho; Shores, Christopher (2013-03-01). Japanese Naval Fighter Aces: 1932-45. Stackpole Books. ISBN 9781461751199 "World War II Flying Ace, Robert Duncan". Marion Illinois History Preservation. Retrieved 2018-04-11.
 * Reviewed:Template:Did you know nominations/George Speake

Created by PlanespotterA320 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:37, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ALT1:... that ensign Robert Duncan was the first person to shoot down a Mitsubishi A6M Zero while in a Grumman F6F Hellcat?


 * COMMENT: Made some changes to article, but also rated it as Stub (not rated before). In my opinion, more information should be added before the article is upgraded to Start or better, and before consideration for this DYK nomination David notMD (talk) 14:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg: The hook is 242 characters - the hard limit is 200. On other issues: the article was nominated at 1703 chars. D11 says "If an article otherwise qualifies for DYK, it is not a stub" (but D13 points out that these things are subjective). Nominated in time. Neutral. Sourcing accepted AGF (longest paragraph sourced to family-written obituary - may not be reliable - and to a book that I can't preview enough of to see the details about Duncan). No apparent copyvio. QPQ not needed (4th nomination by my count), but this wouldn't meet QPQ if one were needed. &rsaquo; Mortee  talk 20:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Mortee, did you check the ALT1 hook, which is short enough? (I've struck the original hook, since it is far too long.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * D'oh sorry, I entirely missed that. I don't know how that happened. Yes, I'm fine with ALT1. is it still your view that the article needs expansion (D7) before it can be promoted? If there hadn't been earlier comments I would tick this myself, but I wouldn't want to just overrule you and it's true that his career post-WWII isn't covered in detail. We can always ask for a third opinion if it would be helpful. &rsaquo;  Mortee  talk 19:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I withdraw my comment. Fine with the article being Start-class, and the DYK going forward. David notMD (talk) 20:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg good to go with ALT1. Thanks &rsaquo;  Mortee  talk 14:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)