Template:Did you know nominations/SS John Sherman


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The result was: promoted by Alex ShihTalk 13:02, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

SS John Sherman

 * ... that from the privately owned 1875 side-wheel paddle boat SS John Sherman came the biggest and fastest lake train ferries in the world, that of the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway's Lake Michigan fleet?
 * Source- C & O Lake Michigan Fleet was Inaugurated in 1875; Two Ships added today "From puffing sidewheelers to the biggest, fastest lake carferries in the world--that's the story of the Chesapeake and Ohio's Lake Michigan fleet. ... A single ship--a slow, privately owned side-wheel steamer, the John Sherman--initiated the service in 1875, carrying package freight."
 * Source - Hilton, page 93 "In number of ships, volume of freight tonnage, and number of passengers, much the largest Great Lakes car ferry operation has been the Lake Michigan service of the Pere Marquette Railway and its successor, the Chesapeake & Ohio ... The Flint & Pere Marquette was interested in establishing its own break-bulk steamer service across the lake, and in 1875 chartered the small side- wheeler John Sherman to run to Sheboygan, Wisconsin, to connect with the Sheboyganm& Fond du Lac Railroad."
 * Source - Marine News FROM puffing sidewheelers to the biggest, fastest lake carferries in the world — that is the story of the Chesapeake and Ohio's Lake Michigan Fleet, a story that covers more than three-quarters of a century of progress for the carferry service. 1875. That was the year in which a single ship — a slow, chartered side-wheeler, the John Sherman — initiated the service, carrying package freight.
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Time to Get Tough

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Doug Coldwell (talk) at 17:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and I can detect no policy issues. I think the hook can be improved on, what about forgetting about the fleet evolving into the largest ferry service in the world, and using the fact that the cargo had to be loaded and unloaded by hand? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:35, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


 * ALT1 - ... that the SS John Sherman was the first freight ship used on Lake Michigan, that unloaded cargo by hand from a rail car and then at the end of the trip reloaded it again by hand to another rail car? propose ALT1.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ALT2 - ... that cargo had to be loaded and unloaded by hand onto the SS John Sherman, the first freight ship used on Lake Michigan? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:25, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Great wording - let's go with ALT2. Was bold and struck out original hook and ALT1 that I proposed.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Theoretically, I am not supposed to approve my own hook, but in this case, you proposed ALT1 and I shuffled the words around and did not introduce any new facts when suggesting ALT2. So this is good to go with ALT2. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)