Template:Did you know nominations/Saar status referendum, 1935


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Saar status referendum, 1935

 * ... that despite Georges Clemenceau's claim that Saar contained 150,000 Frenchmen, less than 1% of the Saar's voters supported a French annexation of the Saar?

5x expanded by Futurist110 (talk). Self nominated at 02:21, 2 May 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Expanded 5x, large enough, hook cited, no copyvio found. I can't see any QPQ, though (which is the only reason I haven't given it a Symbol confirmed.svg). The hook is short enough and interesting, but a large portion of it is bold/linked - although that might just be a personal preference. Is there a better way to phrase it (maybe including the word 'referendum')? (I'm very new here - maybe a second opinion would be good.)
 * ALT1... that despite Georges Clemenceau's claim that Saar contained 150,000 Frenchmen, less than 1% of the Saar's voters supported a French annexation of the Saar in a 1935 referendum? Bilorv (talk) 11:53, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I have now did this QPQ here -- Template:Did you know nominations/Drupad Borgohain -- for this DYK? nomination of mine. Also, I approve of the ALT1 hook for this DYK? nomination. Please let me know if there are any additional problems with this DYK? nomination of mine. Thank you. Futurist110 (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, here is another possible hook for this:
 * ALT2... that despite Georges Clemenceau's claim that Saar contained 150,000 Frenchmen, just 2,124 of the Saar's voters supported a French annexation of the Saar in a 1935 referendum?
 * This alternate hook uses raw numbers, as opposed to percentages, for both Clemenceau's claim and for the actual pro-France vote. This, in turn, allows for a better comparison of these two things. Thoughts? Futurist110 (talk) 22:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Reiterating the original icon, to keep this from showing up as approved—the last-used icon is picked up by automated processed—since the ALT hooks still need reviewing. (It's a good point, that shorter bolded text is better than a huge phrase; I'd suggest a minor change, placing the "a" before the bolded "1935 referendum", rather than in it.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I approve of all of the ALT hooks here. Any changes which one thinks are necessary to make to the hooks are fine with me. Futurist110 (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * (I've removed the "a" from bold in ALT1.) Personally, I have little preference between ALT1 and ALT2 - if pressed, I'd have to go for ALT2. What happens now? Do we have to pick one before giving it a tick? (This is my first time reviewing.) Bilorv (talk) 08:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * How about ALT3? Would ALT3 be a good hook for this DYK? nomination? Futurist110 (talk) 05:16, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Shouldn't the hooks use "fewer", not "less", as voters are countable? Number  5  7  11:14, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd say it depends how you divide the sentence: it should be "less than 1%" but "fewer than X voters". I read it as "...[numerical figure] of the Saar's voters...", as opposed to "less than [countable noun]". I'm usually quite pedantic when it comes to "less" and "fewer", but I didn't pick up on that. Bilorv (talk) 11:36, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

is right, "fewer" is correct. "Less than" is for a quantity, "fewer than" for a number. One per cent (one in a hundred) is clearly a number. Moonraker (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying this. Personally, though, I think that ALT2 might be the best hook to use here. However, again, I myself am fine with any hook being used here. Futurist110 (talk) 20:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Here is a minor change based on BlueMoonset's recommendation:


 * ALT3... that despite Georges Clemenceau's claim that Saar contained 150,000 Frenchmen, just 2,124 of the Saar's voters supported a French annexation of the Saar in a 1935 referendum?

Futurist110 (talk) 05:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Second opinion requested by original (new) reviewer; a confirming check that everything looks okay would be appreciated. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, someone else should really look at this DYK? nomination whenever possible. After all, it has already been almost three days since this comment. Futurist110 (talk) 00:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It has already been another six days, and I am still waiting to someone else to review this DYK? nomination of mine. Futurist110 (talk) 00:00, 24 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article new enough, long enough. Hook verified. QPQ done. Good to go! Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:04, 24 May 2014 (UTC)