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Scipione Piattoli

 * ... that Italian Scipione Piattoli (pictured) played an important role in the passing of the Constitution of May 3, 1791 in Poland?
 * Reviewed: Bakatue Festival
 * Comment: 5x expansion

Created/expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 3 January 2012 (UTC)



--LauraHale (talk) 00:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Length and timeliness checks out:  Prose size (text only): 10420 characters (1673 words) "readable prose size" Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 31 edits ago on January 2, 2012.  Image used in article and hook had a copyright statement that works.  (PD)  There are some statements that could be made a bit more neutral but do not appear overly problematic. Sources are all there and are inline.
 * Pictogram voting keep.svg book sources and non-English sources support the text and are free of copyright violations.
 * Symbol question.svg I have no reason to doubt the hook is accurate, but it isn't clearly found in the text and takes a lot of reading in order to begin to agree with it. An alt hook should be proposed to get around this problem, and should be able to pass if the hook more clearly comes from the text with out having to read and mentally synthesise a lot of text to reach the conclusion in the hook.
 * There is a referenced sentence "Piattoli, as secretary to King Poniatowski and a resident of the Royal Castle in Warsaw, has been credited with having won the King over to the idea of social reforms and with having played a role in the drafting of the Constitution of May 3, 1791" followed by half a para discussing his role in more detail. I am open to alt hooks, if anybody would like to present them, but I believe this one is reliably referenced. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 00:24, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * His role was important but the article also says "The exact nature of Piattoli's role in regard to the Constitution remains uncertain;".  It also says " He might have prepared or expanded drafts of the document,"  I'm not doubting the hook is probably accurate, but it just isn't clear from the text that this is the case.  I'm having trouble finding something interesting because not my topic area, so any proposal you could make for an ALT1 that clearly comes from the text and is unambiguous in terms of the sourcing I'd be inclined to support. --LauraHale (talk) 00:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ALT1: ... that the figure of the Abbé Morio in Leo Tolstoy's War and Peace was modeled on Scipione Piattoli, one of the drafters of the Polish Constitution of May 3, 1791? — Kpalion(talk) 00:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Good one, I like it better than my org! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 01:03, 13 January 2012 (UTC)