Template:Did you know nominations/Seth Andrews


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The result was: rejected by Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:04, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Article is now at AfD. Without wishing to prejudge the result, general consensus from reviewers here is the subject does not meet the criteria for a standalone article

Seth Andrews

 * ... that Seth Andrews` (pictured) book Deconverted: A Journey From Religion To Reason documents his personal experience in leaving religion and becoming an atheist activist?
 * ALT1:... that before becoming the host of The Thinking Atheist podcast and online community, Seth Andrews (pictured) was a Christian radio show host?

Created by Mrs Kartoshka (talk), Nederlandse Leeuw (talk). Nominated by Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) at 15:38, 14 October 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol possible vote.svg This article does not appear to satisfy Wikipedia criteria for notability. Most of the information is based on the subject's book and website; only the ESkeptic and Patheos references are secondary sources that are acceptable for proving notability. I suggest that you do a broader search for other newspapers and media that discuss him and his work. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that a Tampa Bay Times cite was added after my comment. This is nothing more than a community calendar item. Exposure in The New York Times or other national media would confirm this subject's notability. Yoninah (talk) 02:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Which guideline states reliable sources should be 'national media'? WP:SECONDARY makes no mention of that. Besides, the Tampa Bay Times has a circulation of over 400,000 (22% of the NYTimes), and was not the only source I added; I added another Patheos interview and The Prairie, the official newspaper of West Texas A&M University. Those may not be all 'national media', but they are reliable secondary sources with a significant readership. Moreover, I think Andrews easily fulfills the criteria for WP:ENTERTAINER, since he has played a significant role in producing and hosting multiple radio podcast episodes that have more than a million downloads worldwide (I'd call that a pretty 'large fan base'), for a while being the most popular podcast on BlogTalkRadio, as well as organise and speak at numerous conventions (both regional and national, sometimes with thousands of attendees, which one may regard as 'a significant role in stage performances'), and writing a book that has probably sold thousands of copies (I'm not sure how one could check for reliable stats on book sales though, and this in itself would probably not satisfy the WP:AUTHOR criteria). His work is, if not unique, very innovative in creating a large worldwide online community for nonbelievers. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 05:14, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New review required. Nominator requesting second opinion. Fuebaey (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I have to agree there's an apparent notability problem. I'm seeing routine coverage in college newspapers. ENTERTAINER requires being part of multiple notable works. What notability-lending sources am I missing? EEng (talk) 18:11, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol delete vote.svg I agree that this material is too promotional and lacking in notability. Andrew D. (talk) 13:22, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I added three sources that mention Andrews, from The Huffington Post, The Christian Post and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, respectively. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't think these help. These are incidental mentions that tell us nothing about him. EEng (talk) 15:33, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New DYK review requested. Please take the article to WP:AFD if you feel this does not meet notability requirements. Fuebaey (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol possible vote.svg Now at AFD. Yoninah (talk) 15:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)