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Sirmaniyah
Created/expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * ... that in the 12th-century, the Syrian village of Sirmaniyah was a Crusader fief named after the Germanic Sarmani family?


 * Symbol possible vote.svg While I am unable to read the full context from the snippet view of the source on Google, it appears to be referring to elements of this claim as "preposterous". Gatoclass (talk) 06:33, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe what the author is referring to as "preposterous" is the claim that John Maron's hometown of Sarum is identified with Sirmaniyah. Here's further confirmation that Sirmaniyah is the Crusader-era Sarmania (also snippets of the same source): "At the entrance to Jisr esh Shaghur a poor track runs off  r. for (13 km, 8 m) the village of Sermaniye. This was the Sarmenia of the Crusaders, one of the important fiefs of the principality of Antioch. Several of the seigneurs of Sarmenia occupied high positions at the court of the princes of Antioch." I'll add this cite to the hook sentence for further backing. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe what the author is referring to as "preposterous" is the claim that John Maron's hometown of Sarum is identified with Sirmaniyah. Here's further confirmation that Sirmaniyah is the Crusader-era Sarmania (also snippets of the same source): "At the entrance to Jisr esh Shaghur a poor track runs off  r. for (13 km, 8 m) the village of Sermaniye. This was the Sarmenia of the Crusaders, one of the important fiefs of the principality of Antioch. Several of the seigneurs of Sarmenia occupied high positions at the court of the princes of Antioch." I'll add this cite to the hook sentence for further backing. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I can't make a determination from these snippet sources. Maybe someone else should have a look at this. Gatoclass (talk) 03:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote4.png Needs new reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Length is fine. Prose is ok. Topic is notable as a verified place. Article was new when nominated. Facts are cited; disputed location of 'Sarum' is clearly shown to have alternatives and is cited. However Moosa does not say the Sarmani were definitely Germanic, but that Daww asserts that they were, so the hook needs redrafting. Perhaps simply
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1: ... that in the 12th-century, the Syrian village of Sirmaniyah was a Crusader fief?
 * If that's acceptable then we're good to go. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Thanks for the review. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)