Template:Did you know nominations/So Long, It's Been Good to Know Yuh


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Montanabw (talk) 02:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

So Long, It's Been Good to Know Yuh

 * ... that although the song "So Long, It's Been Good to Know Yuh" had a limited success during its initial release by Woody Guthrie (pictured), its popularity soared when it was recorded by The Weavers?

Created by Phill24th (talk). Self nominated at 20:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, adequately sourced. Hook ref verified and cited inline. No QPQ needed; nominator has less than 5 DYKs. However, there is quite a bit of close paraphrasing, with whole sentences lifted from the sources. Please rewrite these in your own words, even mixing up sentence order, to avoid copyvio:
 * Article: Guthrie drew upon his experiences while living in Pampa, Texas, and the happenings during Black Sunday, the notoriously destructive dust storm of April 14, 1935.
 * Source: Guthrie drew upon his firsthand experiences living in Pampa, Texas, during "Black Sunday", the notoriously destructive storm of April 14, 1935
 * Article: The song came out of music used in work by Carson Robinson called "Ballad of Billy the Kid" from the 1930s, which Guthrie reworked and added his own lyrics
 * Source: His "So Long, It's Been Good To Know Ya" (1935; originally titled "Dusty Old Dust") came from music used in a traditional work by Carson Robison called "Ballad of Billy the Kid" (1930); Guthrie reworked it and added his own words.
 * Article: The composition reflected the hard times of Americans during the Great Depression, especially the harsh weather and drought conditions experienced by farmers in the Western United States
 * Source: It reflects the hard times of the Depression, especially the harsh weather and drought conditions experienced by farmers in the western half of the nation.
 * Article: The chorus consists of quoted and repeatable speech, it has been described as witty, black retort, utterly negative and apocalyptic
 * Source: In fact, the chorus consists of quoted and thus repeatable speech; it is basically a witty, black retort, utterly negative and apocalyptic
 * Since the song lyric is also sourced as "So Long, It's Been Good To Know Ya", perhaps you could add that alternate spelling in the lead. I changed the book links to the Google Preview URLs and added page numbers for the cited material. I wasn't able to find the page that you're quoting in Encyclopedia of Great Popular Song Recordings. I also notice that the page is an orphan, with less than 3 links to other Wikipedia pages. Could you add links to this article in other articles? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed what could be fixed, not all of these can be classified as close paraphrasing, there isn't any other way that they could be presented, because they're basic facts. Thanks for your consideration, Phill24th (talk) 21:25, 5 April 2014 (UTC).
 * Of course they can be rewritten. If you choose not to, please put everything in quote marks. Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeh, OK. Done. Phill24th (talk) 21:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Article: Guthrie drew upon his experiences while living in Pampa, Texas, and the happenings during Black Sunday, the notoriously destructive dust storm of April 14, 1935. Fixed: While writing the song Guthrie relied on his his past experiences while living in the town of Pampa, Texas, and the happenings during the Black Sunday dust storm, part of the Dust Bowl, of April 14, 1935.
 * Source: Guthrie drew upon his firsthand experiences living in Pampa, Texas, during "Black Sunday", the notoriously destructive storm of April 14, 1935
 * Article: The song came out of music used in traditional work by Carson Robinson called "Ballad of Billy the Kid" from the 1930s, which Guthrie reworked and added his own lyrics Fixed: The song was based on music used in Carson Robison's "Ballad of Billy the Kid" from the 1930s, which Guthrie slightly modified and added new lyrics. (this isn't close par.)
 * Source: His "So Long, It's Been Good To Know Ya" (1935; originally titled "Dusty Old Dust") came from music used in a traditional work by Carson Robison called "Ballad of Billy the Kid" (1930); Guthrie reworked it and added his own words.
 * Article: The composition reflected the hard times of Americans during the Great Depression, especially the harsh weather and drought conditions experienced by farmers in the Western United States Fixed: The composition tells about the hard times of Americans during the Great Depression, especially the harsh weather and drought conditions experienced by farm workers in the Western United States. (think that this will do)
 * Source: It reflects the hard times of the Depression, especially the harsh weather and drought conditions experienced by farmers in the western half of the nation.
 * Article: The chorus consists of quoted and repeatable speech, it has been described as witty, black retort, utterly negative and apocalyptic Fixed: ...it has been described as "witty, black retort, utterly negative and apocalyptic" (placed in brackets)
 * Source: In fact, the chorus consists of quoted and thus repeatable speech; it is basically a witty, black retort, utterly negative and apocalyptic Phill24th (talk) 21:52, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I did some additional editing to show you how you can say things in your own words. The article is now holding at 1437 characters, which is 63 characters short for DYK. Perhaps you would like to add something about the "humor" that critics find in the song (I saw that in some of the sources). Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. Article's now at 1539 characters (264 words) "readable prose size", and ready for review. Phill24th (talk) 06:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you. I added a few more refs to speak about the song's charting success with The Weavers. Hook ref verified and cited inline. Close paraphrasing issues resolved. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)