Template:Did you know nominations/Sodder children disappearance


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Sodder children disappearance

 * ... that the bodies of five of the Sodder children were allegedly never found after a fire today destroyed their Fayetteville, West Virginia, home 70 years ago today, leading their family to believe they were still alive somewhere?


 * ALT1: ... that the Fayetteville, West Virginia, fire chief planted a beef liver in the ashes of George Sodder's house allegedly to convince him his five missing children had actually died in the fire 70 years ago today?
 * ALT2: ... that a billboard the Sodder family of Fayetteville, West Virginia, put up on a local highway seeking information on five of their children who allegedly disappeared 70 years ago today remained up until 1989?
 * ALT3:... that a photo (pictured) mailed to the Sodder family of Fayetteville, West Virginia, in 1968 is believed by them to be of one of their five children unaccounted for after a fire destroyed their home 70 years ago today?
 * Reviewed: Real ear measurement
 * Comment: As the hooks suggest I have again created this with a date in mind ... December 24, the 70th anniversary of the fire.

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC).


 * I added the article into Selected anniversaries/December 24. If it features this article into the Main Page as part of OTD, the article will no longer be eligible for DYK. George Ho (talk) 20:15, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * why would you do something like that? Do you think that every article tied to a date has to be included in Selected Anniversaries? Your decisions on DYK hooks are becoming disruptive. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Excellent work, as always. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. A few comments:
 * Why isn't this called Disappearance of Sodder children in keeping with other page titles?
 * I followed the example of Beaumont children disappearance, which like this one sounds less awkward when we're dealing with multiple persons. Daniel Case (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * IMO all of the hooks are wordy and clunky. Please also remember that the majority of hooks on December 24 will be about Christmas, so maybe this hook shouldn't be so graphic. Could you offer another suggestion?
 * There are several alts that aren't graphic. Were they not enough? Daniel Case (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, I sort of see what you're saying now. Ahem ... bad things happen on and around Christmas whether we want them to or not. I cannot find a hook that would sufficiently sugarcoat this ... the fact is that the fire that destroyed their house set this story in motion. If you don't want the hook with the beef liver, fine. In fact, ALT2 doesn't mention the fire at all. Daniel Case (talk) 00:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Second look: ALT3 looks pretty good. Not sure if they'll run the picture, what with Christmas lights and Christmas beetles in the queue, but it stands up pretty well on its own. Yoninah (talk) 00:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The QPQ is not a full review. Reviews should explicitly confirm that the five main DYK criteria have been met. Yoninah (talk) 22:58, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll do another one. Daniel Case (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * In the interests of getting this to the Main Page for December 24, I'll donate one of my own QPQs: Template:Did you know nominations/Almond production in Afghanistan.
 * Well, I just did Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's volleyball as well, so we're really good. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT3 hook ref verified and cited inline. Image is public domain. QPQ done. ALT3 good to go for December 24. Yoninah (talk) 09:40, 21 December 2015 (UTC)