Template:Did you know nominations/St. Anne's Market


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The result was: promoted by Bloom6132 (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

St. Anne's Market

 * ... that the former parliament of pre-Confederation Canada is buried under a parking lot? Source: Toronto Star
 * ALT1: ... that the former parliament of pre-Confederation Canada was burned to the ground? Source: Toronto Star
 * Reviewed: Worcestershire v Somerset, 1979

Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 02:53, 25 April 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Article is new enough (created today). Article length at 1900+ is long enough. Article neutrality and sourcing good, with sufficient refs.  No copyvio detected by Earwig. QPQ done. Hooks well within length and sourced. I don't either hook quite works as is. First, "parliament" is the government body. This is really about a building. So I think both hooks should say "... that the former parliament building". The building isn't really buried under a parking lot, the building burned down - so I don't think the hook is accurate. Alt1 works with the addition of building:
 * ALT1a: ... that the former parliament building of pre-Confederation Canada was burned to the ground?
 * or a new hook could still use parking lot, which is more "hooky":
 * ALT2: ... that the former parliament building of pre-Confederation Canada is now a parking lot?
 * I think the revised ALT2 looks best. Hooky and accurate.  Sounder Bruce  05:09, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Good to go with ALT2 (preferred) or ALT1a. MB 14:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but don't find ALT2 so hooky. It's the former building, it's from the pre-Confederation era, so why wouldn't it be destroyed? What do you think of this alt?
 * ALT3: ... that a fish market became the provincial seat of Canada?
 * Also, there is a citation needed tag that needs to be addressed. Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

 Sounder Bruce  22:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The new hook would not be accurate, as the fish market came after the burning of the original building (which housed the government). Perhaps the following hook:
 * ALT4: ...that Canada's former parliament building later became a fish market, and then a parking lot?
 * The citation needed tag has been addressed.  Sounder Bruce  23:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of the cite. But the hook is not hooky. Why do you have to spell everything out?
 * ALT3a: ... that a fruit and vegetable market became the provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 08:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll defer to your hook, then.  Sounder Bruce  17:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. New reviewer needed for ALT3a. Pinging original reviewer, . Yoninah (talk) 18:24, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The closest citation to the hook fact ([1]) confirms that St. Anne's Market became the seat of the first Parliament. But it doesn't say it was a "fruit and vegetable" market, it just says "public market". Do you have a better source? MB 18:55, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * None of the references seem to have a direct and specific mention of fruits and vegetables. A mistake on my part. How about this for a new hook:
 * ALT5 ...that a public market was the provincial seat of Canada before it burned to the ground?
 *  Sounder Bruce  05:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg think that works. Good to go with ALT5. MB 15:03, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * What does burning to the ground have to do with it? Can't you make it short and hooky:
 * ALT5a: ...that a public market was the provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 15:07, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * , I did not receive a ping on this and just noticed it. Did you mean to ask since it's his article and his hook? But I'll give my thoughts anyway. I don't see a problem with the hook. The building burning to the ground has a lot to do with the article. How many government headquarter buildings are destroyed by rioters? I find it intriguing and hooky. More so than the building previously being a market - that strikes me as boring. So I'll throw out ALT5b for consideration (which is similar to ALT1a).


 * ALT5b: ...that rioters burned the first provincial seat of Canada? MB 23:46, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * yes, that's good; it adds a little more kick to the burning to the ground part. I'm willing to approve it if approves. BTW the same source (footnote 1) verifies ALT3a, above. Yoninah (talk) 08:27, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ALT5b is all good with me.  Sounder Bruce  19:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Great, let's wrap this up. ALT5b verified and cited inline. Rest of review per MB. ALT5b good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:43, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 14:59, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that all that needs to be done here is add the word "permanent" to the hook, per the Toronto Star article:
 * ALT5c: ... that rioters burned the first permanent provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 15:03, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Alternately, ALT3a is verified by footnote 1:
 * ALT3a: ... that a fruit and vegetable market became the provincial seat of Canada? Yoninah (talk) 15:18, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I approve of ALT5c as nominator; ALT3a is still a bit dull for a hook. Just need this to finally get through to the front page.  Sounder Bruce  18:48, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ALT5C looks good to me and if someone would like to formally give it, or some other hook, a tick I will be able to promote this again! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to approve ALT5c. Alternately,, you could approve it and another editor could promote it to prep. Yoninah (talk) 16:21, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT5c is good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Would it be possible to hold this for July 1 (Canada Day)?  Sounder Bruce  06:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * At this point, I would IAR and agree. Moving to special occasions holding area. Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)