Template:Did you know nominations/Swan & Edgar, Marylebone


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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Swan & Edgar, Marylebone

 * ... that the Swan & Edgar (pictured) claims to be the smallest pub in London?
 * Reviewed: Virginia Grayson

Created by Edwardx (talk). Self nominated at 23:08, 6 June 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Article is (barely) long enough and has been created on the indicated day and nominated 5 days later, just in time. The picture license is suitable for DYK. The hook fact is referenced to a source that is independent of the pub, even in the stronger version that the pub is "famous for its claim". Apart from the outstanding review by the submitting author, I have the feeling that the text is generally too close to its major source, though: duplication detector report --- Although there are no long word-for-word copies, there are many four or five word similarities that could be worded differently. The stub template also still needs to be removed. --Pgallert (talk) 14:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * QPQ done. Will address other issues now. Edwardx (talk) 15:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've done a lot of rewording. Stub removed. You can change to the "stronger" hook wording if you like. And I've added another source and a bit more information. Please have another look. Edwardx (talk) 16:30, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I have made further attempts to reword, but I think someone else should decide whether they went far enough. --Pgallert (talk) 11:09, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Full new review due to re-write of article since previous review above. Article created 1 June, nominated 7 June - in my opinion acceptable at a stretch, due to current DYK review backlog which means that there are many far older noms still on this DYK talk page, and if/when this Swan & Edgar nom is promoted it is likely to go before a lot of the old ones. Article is long enough. No problems with disambig links or with access to external links. Nice, snappy hook which checks out online with citation #1. Hook image is free, and also appears in article. Article is written in objective manner and neutral style, fully cited. All citations checked for sources of copyvio and close paraphrasing; none found. QPQ done. This nom is good to go. --Storye book (talk) 15:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thanks. By the way, the rules have recently been changed from 5 to 7 days. Edwardx (talk) 15:32, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you for telling me, I didn't know - it was only three days ago on 14 June according to the page history. Well I'm glad to hear it. --Storye book (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg still GTG. --Storye book (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2014 (UTC)