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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 21:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Tatjana Gsovsky

 * ... that Tatjana Gsovsky (pictured), ballet mistress at opera houses in East Berlin, Buenos Aires, West Berlin and Frankfurt, premiered ballets by Henze and Nono?
 * Reviewed: Cippi of Melqart
 * Comment: 8 March or later

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nominated at 23:25, 24 February 2014 (UTC).
 * I will review.  Montanabw (talk) 07:31, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg Article new enough, long enough, image licensing good, neutral, cited and qpq done.  Almost good to go except for hook:
 * Symbol question.svg Not quite comfortable with phrasing of the hook. length OK, but grammar is a bit off, and assumes readers have knowledge of Cold War era Berlin that a lot of younger readers do not possess... the article lists " Deutsche Oper Berlin" and "Berlin State Opera" but it is unclear that these were, at the time, in West or East Berlin ... may need to adjust the article to clarify, or else just say "Berlin" in the hook.  Also, I'd put in some transitional wording in here -- something like ... Gsovsky was ballet mistress at ... and staged premiers of ..." Or maybe even, to be closer to the article, say "was first to choreograph ballets by..."  I'll let you propose a reworded hook and we can work it out.   Montanabw (talk) 07:31, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I clarified East and West in the article. I don't like the transitional "and" because the "firsts" were in her function as ballet mistress, not additional. We have time to think about a hook until closer to March 8, the article will grow further, perhaps a completely different one my come up, - not today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Clarification works as to East and West Berlin. As a non-ballet expert, I am a little confused between the role of the ballet master/mistress and the choreographer, it seems she performed both roles?  The way the article reads, it sounds like the unique thing about the Werner and Nono pieces was first-ever choreography, but I may misunderstand?   Montanabw (talk) 20:01, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I am also no ballet expert, - just learned the term ballet mistress. That's the function for which she was hired, it's responsibility for personal and training, and part can be - and was in her case- choreography. What do you think of this (dropping Frankfurt, using verb choreograph, of which I didn't even know that it existed), mentioning two composers for many, one of whom died recently? We could link the opera houses (they are linked in the article), but the German DYK and a friend go for one link only ;)
 * ALT1: ... that Tatjana Gsovsky (pictured), ballet mistress at opera houses in East Berlin, Buenos Aires and West Berlin, first choreographed ballets by Henze and Nono?
 * best date: 18 March, her (113th) birthday, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

ALT1 approved, good to go; tell the folks at DYK talk of your edit date - I think they have to do the move into the requested dates, or at least bless your doing it. (I just did that for Thunder (mascot) and I think the DYK-T regulars do this... Montanabw (talk)