Template:Did you know nominations/Terwilliger curves

Terwilliger curves

 * ... that the Terwilliger curves, a six-lane section of Interstate 5 in Portland, Oregon, had an average of 100 car accidents per year between 1995 and 2005?

Created by WWB (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 00:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg The article is fine and the DYK is too but not all of those blog references are acceptable. For instance, this claims to reproduce a 2005 article by a Lisa something for the Oregonian, but the actual author of that post is user/mwalden, Michael Walden.  Actual endorsed staff of the newspaper get profiles like this.  It's a good DYK, and I assume it's likely the articles are accurate, but my personal assumption doesn't cut it.  See WP:NEWSBLOG and WP:UGC.  It's a good article however and a good DYK.  ~ R.T.G 01:51, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. I will see what I can do. SL93 (talk) 01:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you actually confirm the articles yourself in archives? I see that you have quoted a 1996 article and if you can confirm the accuracy you could at least quote the original articles and maybe send the Oregonian a mail about it 'cos they probably want as much WP coverage as possible for the advertising value. ~ R.T.G 01:57, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't cite anything. This is not a self-nomination. SL93 (talk) 02:01, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The author really does work for the Oregonian per. SL93 (talk) 02:15, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Why did you strike it? I was going to update the refs and confirm cause it's a good DYK and it's only got a day or two to be promoted.  The Oregon article is no longer available, but if the Government department printed it, it's a useable source surely... article you posted, for reference  ~ R.T.G 02:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed she does, but she didn't make that blog post. ~ R.T.G 02:39, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed it because it was an article by that author on the same subject, but was a different article. I know that she did not make the blog post, but I'm trying to see if it was an actual reprint. SL93 (talk) 02:40, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

This can be declined if nothing changes because I'm at a loss. I didn't notice the true author of the article so I nominated it. SL93 (talk) 02:46, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay I have read through it and the new ref you gave this covers all reffed points except the very first one. Unfortunately I am at a loss with editing thos refs because I just enter the full ref every time I ref so if you can delete the part about 130,000 drivers and change the ref to the one on the gov site it's good to go.  ~ R.T.G 02:51, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg looks good now except the under construction template ~ R.T.G 03:06, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have removed the template. SL93 (talk) 03:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good stuff. I have rquested some pics from Flikr.  Goodnight :) ~ R.T.G 03:24, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello, original author of the article here. I used the Lexis-Nexis news archive for research, and if there are still questions about the details included, I'd be happy to post any and all quotes necessary to assuage remaining doubts. I'm quite confident that all of the sources here are RS; indeed, nearly all of them are from Portland's daily newspaper, The Oregonian. And big thanks to SL93 for nominating it for DYK! I'd meant to do so, just hadn't got around to it. (Also, I don't live in Portland, but am visiting for the week, so if I can I'd like to get down there and snap some photos. I'd looked for CC-BY photos on Flickr, but I didn't find anything.) Best, WWB (talk) 04:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's spot on now but what wasn't RS was the ref that was posted in the Oregonians "blog" area. It claimed to quote an old Oregonian article, and it probably did, but the guy who posted it was not working for the newspaper.  However, User:SL93 found another article elsewhere by the same reporter that was almost word for word and published in the same month of the same year.  If you search Flikr for Twilliger Curves there are just a couple but they were all copyrighted so I just left them all a message saying their picture could have been used and they attributed for the work and told them where it was needed so you never know.  ~ R.T.G 10:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, that makes sense. I did notice The Oregonian had reposted their own previous story, which I'd originally found in Nexis; I simply wanted to include web links where possible, and didn't think much of the discrepancy. Meanwhile, just this afternoon I swung by and took a photo from the Terwilliger Boulevard overpass, uploaded it to Commons, and it's in the article now. WWB (talk) 22:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)