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The result was: promoted by Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 21:12, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Traum durch die Dämmerung

 * ... that Richard Strauss (pictured) composed "Traum durch die Dämmerung" (Dream in the Twilight) on a love poem by Otto Julius Bierbaum, possibly in 20 minutes?
 * Reviewed: Lágrimas Cálidas
 * Comment: Late gift for the composer's 150th birthday. It would be more quirky to say that the texts expresses "no rush", and that the time allotment was by his wife of one year, but I am not gifted to do so ;) - The image is 9 years too young, but better than too old. We are looking for an image of the scene, but so far without convincing result. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:37, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nominated at 15:37, 14 June 2014 (UTC).
 * ALT1 ... that Richard Strauss's wife reportedly only gave him 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung" although the subject of the original Otto Julius Bierbaum poem says he is not in a rush? Belle (talk) 09:19, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * A good try, - can we avoid the genitive of the composer's name, resulting in a unspeakable sss, and get love back in, which seems crucial? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that his wife reportedly only gave Richard Strauss (pictured) 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung" although the subject of the original Otto Julius Bierbaum love poem says he is not in a rush? Belle (talk) 09:19, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * ALT3 ... that his wife reportedly only gave Richard Strauss (pictured) 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung"? - why put so much info in it? Make it misterious. the rest will show up as soon they start reading it... Hafspajen (talk) 10:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I feel it would be fair to mention the poet, because the article is about his poem also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * ALT4 ... that his wife reportedly only gave Richard Strauss (pictured) 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung" on the text of Otto Julius Bierbaum love poem?  -  ... Hafspajen (talk) 10:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * ALT5 ... that his wife reportedly only gave Richard Strauss (pictured) 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung" inspired by Otto Julius Bierbaum  love poem?  -  Hafspajen (talk) 10:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * "Inspired" seems not enough, when it is a setting of the complete text, with just little changes, strike ALT5, simplify ALT4:


 * ALT6 ... that his wife reportedly only gave Richard Strauss (pictured) 20 minutes to compose "Traum durch die Dämmerung", a setting of Otto Julius Bierbaum's love poem? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Just a comment on the hook fact, which I found interesting but unclear, and thus decided to check. According to the sources, Strauss had an appointment with his wife to take a walk with her (first reference), apparently to fetch milk (second reference). Before this walk he had twenty minutes available, which he spent to compose this song. To deduce "because his wife would not allow him more time" is a dubious synthesis (if he had not finished the composition by then, he could obviously continue later). Oceanh (talk) 12:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking the details, - I don't think it contradicts the original hook, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:52, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you for modifying said sentence the article. Original hook verified in online references (striking out other hooks to avoid misunderstanding). Date and size fine, article is generally referenced with inline citations (except for the last part of the Music section, which I suppose is taken from the scores; an inline citation also here would be helpful though). Spot checks for close paraphrasing did not reveal any problems. Picture on Commons, license says PD in Austria and EU, but seems to miss US license. Oceanh (talk) 16:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I was told that it's before 1894, therefore free, has the license now on commons. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC)