Template:Did you know nominations/Tren Interurbano de Pasajeros Toluca-Valle de México


 * The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as |this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Tren Interurbano de Pasajeros Toluca-Valle de México

 * ... that Tren Interurbano de Pasajeros Toluca-Valle de México was announced by President Enrique Peña Nieto in 2012? Source: "el inicio para el año que viene de los trenes de pasajeros de la Ciudad de México a Querétaro y Toluca" (Peña y sus 13 promesas: Combate a la pobreza, paz, trenes, cadenas de televisión…-Proceso 1 December 2012)
 * ALT1: ... that Tren Interurbano de Pasajeros Toluca-Valle de México will include a tunnel underneath Sierra de las Cruces? Source: "La gigante constructora mexicana Empresas ICA será la encargada de perforar y construir el bitúnel de 4.6 Km. que cruzará la Sierra de las Cruces" (- ICA gana el túnel para tren a Toluca-La Razón 25 July 2014)
 * Comment: Many of the sources on this article were in Spanish. It was difficult to search for articles in English.
 * Comment: Many of the sources on this article were in Spanish. It was difficult to search for articles in English.

Created/expanded by FunksBrother (talk). Self-nominated at 17:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg New enough and long enough. Image properly licensed. No close paraphrasing evident (I speak Spanish). Note that some of your refs need to be more specific. For example, the Análisis Costo-Beneficio (currently footnote 4) is a 194-page PDF. No-one should have to search 194 pages to verify facts in the article. It would be much better to break this down into separate refs for individual page numbers (but won't affect me passing this dyk or not). Both hooks check out, although the first is rather dull. I'd go with ALT1. All the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 21:46, 12 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you. To respond to your request to specify the refs, I went ahead and added individual page numbers when the Análisis Costo-Beneficio was cited. Though I had to reformat and change the structure of a paragraph, I hope it clarifies and directs readers to where the information were referenced in the article. FunksBrother (talk) 21:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The Mexican name is quite long and not understandable to non-Spanish speakers. Could you write the name in English, or pipe the link with something like a planned commuter rail? I struck ALT0 because it's not very hooky. Yoninah (talk) 00:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * We could try something like Toluca-Mexico Commuter Rail. I based the title off of the article in Spanish. Also note there is another similarly commuter rail line that kept its title entact (Ferrocarril Suburbano de la Zona Metropolitana del Valle de México) when the article was created in English. FunksBrother (talk) 00:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting renaming the page, just tweaking the hook. So is this okay?
 * ALT1a: ... that the Toluca-Mexico Commuter Rail will include a tunnel underneath Sierra de las Cruces? Yoninah (talk) 00:58, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I miss interpreted. Your tweak will sound better on the front page. FunksBrother (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just read through the article. In the past, DYK editors have advised against naming things that don't have their own Wikipedia articles (like Sierra de las Cruces). Perhaps you could come up with a different hook about all the work accidents? Yoninah (talk) 01:04, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * ALT2: ... that the planned Toluca-Mexico Commuter Rail suffered four construction accidents in a three-month period? or ALT3: ... that Toluca-Mexico Commuter Rail had the Secretariat of Communications and Transportation, Gerardo Ruiz Esparza come to formally kick-off construction? FunksBrother (talk) 01:21, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * As a specialist in Mexico topics, including two recent DYKs on federal toll highways and several other improvements in the space, ALT3 is actually pretty bog standard for a major infrastructure project. I would support the other ALT2 though (with a few changes which I've made to improve wording) — it is cited and the articles support the claims and dates. Raymie (t • c) 23:52, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you,, for contributing your expertise. ALT2 is hooky and foreign-language ref AGF (although you've verified it in Spanish). Rest of review per Simon Burchell. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)