Template:Did you know nominations/Vida Latham


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The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 15:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Vida Latham

 * ... that Vida Latham had a DDS and an MD?


 * ALT1:... that Vida Latham advocated for women in dentistry and medicine throughout her career in both fields?
 * Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Oligoryzomys longicaudatus
 * Comment: I suck at writing hooks, please feel free to suggest less-sucky ones.

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC).


 * Symbol voting keep.svg Review, acceptable stuff -> New enough (barely). Long enough. ALT1 is sourced, short enough and better, plus I added "in both fields". Acceptable rephrasing. QPQ done. No image. starship.paint ~  KO   04:24, 24 September 2015 (UTC)


 * issues to be solved starship.paint ~  KO   05:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * (a) Source 2 states she received some early education in Cambridge, not London.
 * Source 1 says "University of London" for her MSc in 1889.
 * Yes, but we're talking about early education here ... Masters is already postgraduate.
 * (b) Source 1 does not mention that the College of Pharmacy was Northwestern's
 * Both the College of Pharmacy and College of Physicians and Surgeons were Northwestern.
 * I'm going to need a source for that. Source 1 uses the same ";" between all her positions, if they used a "," before the College of Pharmacy I'd be more understanding. Plus, Source 1 says the College of Physicians and Surgeons is from Chicago.
 * (c) microanalyst and physician from 1929, not 1931, according to Source 1?
 * Fixed.
 * (d) Source 2 states she moved to Chicago in the US as she could not practice dentistry in the UK with an American degree
 * I don't think this contradicts anything in the article - are you asking me to clarify/add this?
 * Yes, please add this.
 * (e) Source 2 does not state she published her first papers in 1888, It does state that they were on pain and tooth anatomy.
 * Fixed.
 * (f) Source 1 does not state cancer, but pulp neoplasm (tumor?)
 * In this case it means a malignant neoplasm, aka cancer.
 * I'm afraid I can't accept the assumption that the neoplasms she researched on are solely malignant ones. Source 1 simply does not indicate that.
 * (g) Not entirely sure the lede saying "known for her work in publishing and her research on oral surgery and anatomy." is reflective. Suggest removing, or I need convincing.
 * She was the editor of several prominent journals and "published extensively" in reference to her dental research. I think this is more than enough to support this sentence. Keilana (talk) 19:30, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Well now that I re-read the article, I'm thinking, why restrict it to merely oral surgery and anatomy? How about adding "oral tumours" because there's tooth pulp and palate tumors plus oral cavity cysts as well - you should probably group them so. starship.paint ~  KO   05:30, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ada Lovelace Day is October 13th and this one might be relevant. Please consider helping move articles Victuallers (talk) 23:34, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * bump starship.paint ~  KO   06:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry, my life has been nuts the past few weeks with WikiConference USA and a scientific conference I'm attending with my lab. I'll get to this soon hopefully. My apologies for taking so long. Keilana (talk) 22:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I've been busy as well... starship.paint ~  KO   05:41, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * These articles might help: http://www.fauchard.org/publications/46-vida-a-latham-dds-md and Paul, Rae. The Journal of Vida Latham (1866-1958) Illinois Dental Journal (May, 1976) Vol. 45, Issue 5; 284-285. I've got a copy of the Rae article if you'd like me to add some info to the page for you. SojoQ (talk) 22:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think I'll have time to look at this tonight, finally! Wow, that would be awesome! Thank you! Keilana (talk) 22:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I added a couple details and the reference. The article also backs up the facts that she served in WW1 as a dentist in the armed forces, taught medicine at Rush Medical College, as well as Univ. of Chicago & Northwestern University Medical schools, but didn't give dates. I wasn't sure where to put this info or if you wanted to use it, but the info is in the Rae article if you want to use it.SojoQ (talk) 22:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic, thank you! :) I really appreciate it. Keilana (talk) 15:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, I think I've resolved all these comments. I'm so, so sorry for how long this took. Thank you so much for your conscientious review and your patience. (You should join WikiProject Women Scientists while you're at it!) Keilana (talk) 15:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll try to take a look in 24 hours... starship.paint ~  KO   01:38, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Updated my rating for this review. AGF because reference 1 is offline. Otherwise, this is good to go ! Thanks and  for the effort put in. starship.paint ~   KO   00:44, 1 November 2015 (UTC)