Template:Did you know nominations/Volunia

Volunia
Created/expanded by Pikks (talk), Nearlymiddling (talk). Nominated by Pikks (talk) at 18:24, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ... that Volunia, a potential competitor to Google, has been reported to be the "search engine of the future"?


 * Symbol delete vote.svg The hook is blatantly promotional, and not neutral. --SupernovaExplosion (talk) 13:36, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your review. What part is non neutral? Please propose an alternative hook with the same meaning but neutral. Thank you -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  13:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Volunia "is known as the search engine of the future" it is an opinion with prediction and judgmental language. Being a opinionated judgmental prediction, this statement is not a fact and not neutral, and is promotional in tone. --SupernovaExplosion (talk) 14:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your opinion. I think that "is the search engine of the future" is non neutral, however "is known as the search engine of the future" is neutral, but I agree with you that it can be understood in a different way. So I would change the hook as follows:


 * Alt1 that Volunia is considered a potential competitor to Google and somebody thinks it will be the search engine of the future?
 * Alt2 that Volunia is considered a potential competitor to Google but it's different than normal search engines?

Which alternative you think is the best? Thanks -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  14:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the alternate hooks suffer from the same problem. Requesting third opinion. --SupernovaExplosion (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks good idea. From my experience and from what is in the WP:DYK rules I can see that the hook should be ""hooky", that is, short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article." So I can suggest also a 3 alternative which is supported by the biggest Italian national newspaper:


 * Alt3 that Volunia is Italy's answer to Google? -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  14:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your exhaustive and detailed 3O. I can confirm that - as it appears in the article references, as a quotation - the phrase "jak mogłaby wyglądać wyszukiwarka przyszłości" means "how would look like the search engine of the future".

For this reason I go ahead and change the hook with the neutral one you have proposed. -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  16:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hook changed. Good to go. -- ★ Pikks ★  MsG  16:51, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. As a native Polish speaker who did not work on the article, I confirm the above translation. Here's a more complete quotation from the source article: Volunia jest silnikiem wyszukiwania opartym w dużej mierze na interakcjach społecznościowych. Według Marchiori, jest to próba pokazania, jak mogłaby wyglądać wyszukiwarka przyszłości. Translation: "Volunia is a search engine based to a great extent on social interactions. According to Marchiori, it is an attempt to show what a search engine of the future may look like." — Kpalion(talk) 20:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg With Kpalion's confirmation, this is good to go with the altered hook. Moswento (talk &#124; contribs) 11:34, 2 March 2012 (UTC)