Template:Did you know nominations/Walter Hofer


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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 02:38, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Walter Hofer

 * ... that Nazi-era art dealer Walter Hofer claimed to have beaten Adolf Hitler to a Rembrandt painting?
 * Reviewed: Lake Tremblant

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self nominated at 13:18, 5 December 2014 (UTC).


 * Symbol question.svg Interesting stuff... The article is new enough and long enough, but there are some issues. The WP article says that Hofer claimed beating the agent by one day.  The newspaper source does not say anything about "one day", just that he "nosed out" the other dealer.  It all sounds rather boastful, and nose out could mean anything.  The hook given above goes one step further, saying the Hofer claimed to have beaten Hitler himself?! We need another hook.  I also need to further review further the remaining sources/citations.  &mdash; Gaff   ταλκ  23:14, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry! I was thrown off by the newsprint.  It does say "one day" (or at least the Parisian art dealer convinced him that Hitler's man was coming, which might have just been good salesmanship).  The nominator, Philafrenzy, has far more experience at DYK than I do, so I'm open to hearing thoughts. &mdash; Gaff   ταλκ  23:24, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Just trying to make it "hooky". Open to alternative suggestions. He did make the claim though and I think most people will take it with a pinch of salt anyway. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:29, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  It's hooky, no doubt.  The newspaper article ends with a reference to James Rorimer, who was a key figure in the Monuments Men.  I just wonder if it will run into concerns with WP:OR, that Hitler's agent = Hitler.  Do we know if Hitler had expressed any interest in the painting?  There are so many documents available to review.  I'm too new at DYK reviews to give this a green-light, though it looks promising and the article certainly could someday be GA status. &mdash; Gaff   ταλκ  23:47, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Well I didn't do any OR on it. I will try to think of an Alt in case the original hook is going too far. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Alt 1 ... that Nazi-era art dealer Walter Hofer was the main buyer for Hermann Göring's art collection? Philafrenzy (talk) 02:07, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Symbol confirmed.svg GTG w/ ALT1: long enough, new enough, neutral, interesting, accurately sourced, no copyvio/close paraphrasing issues. The original may be "hookier" but problems as noted, which the compiler may not feel are an issue.   QPQ done. No image to review (only available is Fair Use & not eligible for Main Page). &mdash; Gaff   ταλκ  16:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)