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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:26, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

XHJMA-TV

 * ... that XHJMA-TV was the first television station in Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua?
 * Reviewed: Kosher certification agency

Created by Raymie (talk). Self nominated at 18:43, 22 February 2015 (UTC).


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 * Result: Symbol voting keep.svg Look like good to go, but it will be better with an assessment on the talk page.Ṫ Ḧ the joy of the LORD my strength 14:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg The assessment is easy enough; I added Wikiprojects to the talk page. But the article is an orphan, with no other Wikipedia articles linking to it. Could the page creator take care of that, please? Yoninah (talk) 22:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I understand the orphan problem. The main issue is that it doesn't fit neatly to be linked into other articles. Most television station pages in Mexico are redirects to other pages (the networks they rebroadcast), and Tele-Cadena Mexicana is too poorly understood to have an article (it's got a convoluted history). The "Television stations in " pages which I maintain mostly cover currently existing stations and I've never put defunct stations on any of them. Raymie (t • c) 00:54, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * How about adding it to the history of Parral, Chihuahua? It has to be linked somewhere. Yoninah (talk) 01:15, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Duh. I also added it as a "see also" to XHMH-TDT. I also could change the hook to this since I inadvertently found a source to cite it...
 * ALT1: ... that XHJMA-TV was the first Mexican television station to bear a five-letter callsign?
 * Raymie (t • c) 02:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I like ALT1, but it's not written in the article. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah I knew that but I had finally found a source for it in a list of every TV station in Mexico for 1970. Added. Raymie (t • c) 13:52, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I see that this station is the only one on the list with 5 letters, but does that mean it was the first? Yoninah (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. There weren't a lot of TV stations in Mexico at the time, and only a few had disappeared outright by '70 (all with four-letter calls). The big waves of them came in the 80s and 90s when the government made some HUGE packages of TV station concessions, and then came the five-letter calls. Raymie (t • c) 07:31, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm just concerned about the DYK sourcing requirements. It would be better if you had a source that actually said it was the first one with a 5-letter call sign. The first hook remains sourced (AGF) and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah and I can't really get a source for that other than this list. Actually it'd also need to say commercial television station because I forgot about XEIPN-TDT (as a noncommercial station it's not on the list). That muddles things a bit, so let's scrap ALT1 and use the original hook. Raymie (t • c) 13:15, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg OK. First hook's foreign-language ref is AGF and cited inline. The article has an assessment on its talk page and is no longer an orphan. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 13:18, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

One minute. I just looked at the inline source for the first hook on Google Translate and didn't see anything about it being the first television station in Hidalgo del Parral. Am I missing something? Yoninah (talk) 13:22, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. Fourth paragraph of the cited hook: "...la transmisión del primer canal de televisión que surgió en Parral." (emphasis mine) It's also in the La Jornada article (Villalpando). Raymie (t • c) 05:09, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg OK, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 10:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)