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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Zarma people

 * ... that the Zarma people are one of West African ethnic groups with a history of slavery and caste system? Source: "Probably the best-known study of endogamous specialist groups in West Africa is that of Tamari. (...) she broadens these to consider ethnographic and historical sources on caste hierarchies stretching from Mauritania to Niger. (...) In the map produced by Tamari, the majority of caste groups occur in the western half (...) as well as a continuous belt along the Niger River corresponding to the Songhai-Zarma group. (...)" (1 Anne Haour (2013), Oxford University Press) Source: "Under these circumstances, indeed, ruling families, lineages or larger social groups were trying hard to capture peasantries or develop systems of property rights in human beings (such as corvee or slavery). Yet, the very fact that societies stratified along caste lines - and not only along the usual age-sex lines - were limited to certain parts of sub-Saharan Africa (well known examples are the Hausa and the Songhai-Zarma in the Niger and Mali (...)" (2)  Source: "The traditional form of caste-based servitude was still practiced by the Tuareg, Zarma and Arab ethnic minorities." (3)  Source: "Noblemen, slaves and castes in traditional Songhay society. According to De Sardan (1984) in Les Societes Songhay-Zarma Niger-Mali relationships between slaves and nobles (...)" (4)
 * Reviewed: Adzo Kpossi
 * Comment: This is a part of the WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon initiative.

5x expanded by Ms Sarah Welch (talk). Self-nominated at 15:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC).


 * Symbol confirmed.svg Fivefold expansion and long enough, hook is interesting and referenced, no neutrality issues detected, and QPQ is done. Good to go. KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg you have so much detail in this article, couldn't you come up with a hookier hook? Yoninah (talk) 02:05, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


 * ALT1: ... that the typical huts of the West African ethnic group Zarma people are round?
 * ALT2: ... that the Zarma people build round huts with conical thatched roofs?
 * are these more hooky? As always, I am open to alternate suggestions and collaboration. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Native tribes living in round huts really isn't so unusual to the average person's mind. Let's pursue the social stratification issue.
 * ALT3: ... that the Zarma people divide themselves into strict social strata, including kings and warriors, scribes, artisans, hunters, fishermen, leather workers, hairdressers, and slaves?
 * ALT4: ... that in the stratified social system of the Zarma people, the lowest strata inherited slavery? Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ALT3 and ALT4 are ok with me, and the sources.
 * ALT4a: ... that in the stratified social system of the African Zarma people, the lowest stratum inherited slavery?
 * ALT4b: ... that in the stratified and endogamous social system of the African Zarma people, the lowest strata inherited slavery?
 * I like ALT4, ALT4a and ALT4b more than ALT3. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 00:43, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Your ALT4a is an improvement on my ALT4. Calling for new reviewer for ALT4a and ALT4b. Yoninah (talk) 09:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Symbol voting keep.svg Approving Alt4a (I think we can do without "endogamy" in the hook) as being interesting and having an inline citation. I have altered "strata" to "stratum", its singular form. Feel free to change this back if inappropriate. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:49, 14 November 2016 (UTC)