Template:Did you know nominations/Zostera noltii, Plasmodiophora bicaudata

Zostera noltii, Plasmodiophora bicaudata

 * ... that since wasting disease has become established in eelgrass beds, populations of overwintering Brent geese have declined in Europe?
 * Reviewed: Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción
 * Comment: Double hook

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nominated at 18:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC).


 * Started looking at references, "The condition is known as wasting disease,[3]," and this reference does not include this information. -68.107.136.227 (talk) 21:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "Plasmodiophora bicaudata is a marine fungal pathogen, an obligate parasite of seagrass (Zostera spp.) which causes wasting disease." I don't see a fungal vector anywhere in this; the taxobox (and name) seem to indicate this is a Rhizaria. Where in the lifecycle is a fungus located? -68.107.136.227 (talk) 21:50, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The taxonomy is confusing. Some authorities classify it as a fungus and some as a Rhizaria. I have added a taxonomy section to the article to clarify this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * It used to be a slime mould, apparently. However, slime molds are not monophyletic and the identities of individual taxa have been placed with evolutionarily related taxa. You cannot use a 1989 source for Rhizaria, it's too old, and for slime molds, also, too old. WoRMS cites their source calling it a fungus to a page that clearly labels it a protozoan, not a fungus, which were separate even in the old taxonomies, so WoRMS should not be used as a citation for this being a confusing taxonomy when their confusion is incorrect. -68.107.136.227 (talk) 05:35, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, hook is problematic. Eelgrass is the common name for Zostera species, but most commonly used, I believe, for Zostera marina, so it should not be used as the common name redirect for Z. noltei in this DYK. -68.107.136.227 (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * How about:


 * ALT1 ... that since wasting disease has become established in common eelgrass and dwarf eelgrass beds, populations of overwintering Brent geese have declined in Europe? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Which source is it tied to? -68.107.136.227 (talk) 21:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The reference was to the MarLIN site (General biology and Importance tags) until you removed it. I have now added a different source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including the ALT1 hook; struck original hook which was stated to be problematic. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:28, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Symbol question.svg Articles are long enough and were new enough when nominated. They are well-written (I did not see evidence of close paraphasing) and well supplied with footnotes.
 * The ALT1 hook is interesting -- but (to prevent readers from clicking on the "wrong" link) it should be revised to put the target article about Z. noltei ahead of the non-target article about Z. marina.
 * The statement in the ALT1 hook regarding wasting disease and dwarf eelgrass is supported by at least one of the articles and by content on the MarLIN website, but I have two concerns about the sourcing. First, the webpages for Z. noltii that are cited do not also specifically discuss common eelgrass. To resolve this, add a citation to this page about common eelgrass. Second, the profile of this species on the MarLIN website is presented on 7 different webpages with different titles (e.g., "Dwarf eelgrass - Zostera noltii - General biology" and "Dwarf eelgrass - Zostera noltii - Habitat preferences and distribution") and different URLs. To help the reader find "where you got it", please edit the article to include citations to the specific pages of the MarLIN website that are cited in each passage.
 * When these changes are made, this will be good to go. --Orlady (talk) 04:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I have made the changes you suggested. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ALT2 ... that since wasting disease has become established in dwarf eelgrass and common eelgrass beds, populations of overwintering Brent geese have declined in Europe?
 * Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 works for me, after revisions to the articles. --Orlady (talk) 20:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)