Template talk:APEC leaders

Flags
Do we really need flags for all the leaders here. Images is a bad way to convey information that is important since it makes it harder for the color blind, difficult for screen readers, and for print outs. See WP:ACCESS. It also look horrible. Rettetast (talk) 18:12, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Since there has been no response i have removed the flags a second time. Rettetast (talk) 11:03, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Without flags the template looks AWFUL and is difficult on the eyes.--&#91;&#91;User: Duffy2032&#124;Duffy2032&#93;&#93; (talk) 01:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently, flags aren't used at APEC, which is a collection of economies and not nation-states. The need for a template like this is questionable, but I think it looks nice without the flags. Shrigley (talk) 03:59, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Navbox consensus
There are plausible reasons for modifying a navbox templates which does not appear at the bottom of the page at Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC). The template does appear at the bottom of the page for current leaders of each APEC member. An opportunity for discussion needs to be part of any process which precedes change.

A. The main navbox is very good: APEC&mdash;Template:Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation

B. Deleting the current leaders navbox?
 * This is a poor subject for a navbox because leaders change irregularly over time. The functional utility of this "leaders" navbox is not greater or better than the main navbox which shows member nations and serial summits.
 * this would mean removing Current APEC Leaders&mdash;Template:Current APEC Leaders?

C. Perhaps decision-making may be helped by comparing an array of similar groups and templates?


 * 21 in group> Template:APEC?
 * Template:Current APEC Leaders?
 * Template:Current APEC finance ministers?
 * 18 in groupp> Template:G-15 nations?
 * Template:Group of 15 Leaders?
 * 8 in group> Template:D8 nations?
 * 4 in group>Template:BRIC countries?
 * Template:Current BRIC Leaders?
 * Template:BRIC summits?
 * 3 in group>Template:Trilateral meeting?
 * 2 in group> Template:G-3?
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * 3 in group>Template:Trilateral meeting?
 * 2 in group> Template:G-3?
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5


 * 20 in group> Template:G20?
 * Template:Current G20 Leaders?
 * Template:G-20 leaders' summits?
 * 9 in group> Template:G8 nations?
 * Template:Current G8 Leaders?
 * Template:G8-Foreign?
 * Template:G8-Finance?
 * Template:G8-Defense?
 * Template:G8-Justice?
 * Template:G8-Interior?
 * Template:G8 summits?
 * Template:G8-Interior?
 * Template:G8 summits?

What is the best next step for this article? for similar articles? --Tenmei (talk) 00:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Spurious line break
I have fixed the spurious line break for the fourth time. there is no reason to override the browser default. if you feel otherwise, discuss here. Frietjes (talk) 12:25, 16 May 2017 (UTC)