Template talk:Abraham family tree

Refs
Since this template is not meant to be its own stand alone page, but to go under the "Genesis narrative" section of other pages, all the facts here seem fairly obvious. I have never seen any other family tree with refs. How do you think this family tree needs refs? tahc chat 16:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


 * This chart need some real work.. There are some errors in this chart, Among them Sarah & Abraham were not brothers, but relatives. Also Ephraim & Manasseh were the sons of Joseph and that's missing.. (132.64.215.139 (talk) 07:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC))
 * Genesis says Sarah & Abraham were half siblings. tahc chat 16:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

--Marjansavli (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2016 (UTC) Here is third wife of Abraham missing and her six children. I suggest to copy this page from page Abraham's_family_tree and edit that page instead of this.

Relevance
This template is currently transcluded into over thirty articles, but I think in most cases it provides an unnecessary level of detail. Readers of the Isaac article, for example, only really need to know that he is the son of Abraham and Sarah, the husband of Rebecca, and the father of Jacob and Esau, which information can be found in the prose text and the infobox. The family trees of Haran and Nahor are not immediately relevant, nor is it necessary, in this context, to illustrate which of Jacob's wives/concubines gave birth to which children. So the template only clutters the article without providing much in the way of pertinent information. This problem is even more pronounced in articles on more obscure figures like Zilpah.I propose removing this template from most of the articles on individual people, with the exception of Terah and Abraham. These articles, along with Abraham's family tree, are the logical places where readers will look for this information if they want it. Dan from A.P. (talk) 11:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm going to go ahead and remove the template from all the religious biography articles except Terah. It's not currently present in Abraham, and while I wouldn't object to its inclusion there, I'm not going to add it myself. Dan from A.P. (talk) 19:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This should be removed from all the articles it is used on, as it pushes a POV theory on Cainan son of Arphaxad. See talk page below. TuckerResearch (talk) 17:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Theorizing on Cainan
This template includes a dubious POV theory to reconcile the LXX with the MT/SP versions as to the existence of Cainan son of Arphaxad. TuckerResearch (talk) 17:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)