Template talk:Amtrak Capitol Corridor

Template
ACE VTA and Capitol Corridor need to be added to the Santa Clara and Diridon stations
 * Looks like ACE stops at Fremont centerville too.

Santa Clara and San Jose need to the blue line too, to represent the VTA light-rail, but not subsequently, since separate VTA lines stop at those stations and don't parallel the capitol corridor .MY♥IN chile 02:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a symbol showing that they are separate.Tlantanu (talk) 22:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

the union city station has a BART station in operation, but the capitol corridor station is forthcoming on siteMY♥IN chile 23:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

the Coast Starlight stops at Davis Martinez Emeryville Jack London Square Sacramento and San Jose the San Joaquins stops at Sacramento Martinez Richmond Emeryville and JL Square the California Zephyr stops at Sacramento Roseville Martinez Davis and Emeryville


 * I am not sure how that can be represented, the options I can summon to mind are:


 * transfer icons like at San Jose, then dotted lines parallel to the stations
 * double line symbols with one line skipping the capital corridor stations, then coming into one line for joint stops
 * side notes
 * transfer Icons and no dotted lines
 * making multiple line stops larger icons


 * Multiple line stops i think. that would look like this right



(ZEPHYR)-(STARLIGHT)-(CAPITOLCORRIDOR)

i changed my mind, lines with dots should look good!MY♥IN chile 03:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * considering that they go on the same tracks, I think they should be done with side notes. this might cause enough clutter to force apart the icons, but it seems to be the standard on the other route templates.

we need to add the 16th St./West Oakland station as a defunct station between Emeryville and JL Square.

what's this about limited service to colfax? the amtrak schedule says nothing, and the main article makes no mention.


 * Yeah there was one daily trip to Colfax (past Auburn) the last time i checked, i am CERTAIN of it! - but we can look into it of necessary.MY♥IN chile 00:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * perhaps you are thinking of the California Zephyr ? It goes up there but is not capital corridor.Tlantanu (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * no not at all, not the zephyr, it has always stopped at colfax, i read about it when i read about the proposed extension to Reno and it mentioned they already have a daily train or two past auburn to colfax.MY♥IN chile 02:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

The extension to Reno is described in the article as proposed, not definitely happening.

missing info
this template needs the milage for Santa Clara Great America Station.


 * doneMY♥IN chile 20:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

colfax
ten years old. well it says that, but not much else. not exactly a reliable and thorough source though.
 * according to this article
 * this timetable
 * I couldn't find any evidence on this timetable.
 * this article
 * That was in 1998. the 2008 one says they all end at auburn.
 * this website

seem to indicate a level of service thereMY♥IN chile 19:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * hmm, maybe it's been discontinued or amtrak hasn't updated its webpage, i have seen it as recently as a 2006 timetable in print. perhaps we can email them. i'll ask on the reference desk.MY♥IN chile 20:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Chiming in four years late but a single frequency did terminate at Colfax between 1998-2000. I found mention in NARP's hotlines and archived timetables. Mackensen (talk) 11:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Cleaning up nonexistent service and map clutter (2009)
I removed from the map the extension to Reno. It's sufficient to mention in the article that it's proposed, and no more than that until there's funding for such an extension. As for the map entries for Winnemucca and Chicago, those are beyond WP:OR into fantasy. I deleted them. Now looking at the map, it still looks cluttered with all the creek crossings. That's a level of detail which overwhelms the purpose of the template which is to convey the Capitol Corridor route. If there are no objections, I'll retain Suisun Bay but remove the creek bridges. I'll also remove the info about a pre-1989 track since the Capitol Corridor was established in 1991. Ikluft (talk) 19:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I concur with removing all the creeks and leaving a single water crossing for Carquinez Strait, which is a more accurate label than Suisun Bay. The map is cluttered, and it may be advisable to remove some additional information. I am not sure if county line information is necessary, but if we keep these it should be noted that the initial station at Auburn is in Placer County. Thanks for your efforts here! Highspeed (talk) 23:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll go take care of the bridges. Yeah, like so many places on Wikipedia, it needs to strike a balance between the available technical details and an adequate overview. Ikluft (talk) 00:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think some of the "future" stations may need to be reviewed as well. Funded or actively planned proposals should be fine.  But some of them look like more instances of wishful thinking. Ikluft (talk) 00:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Clutter (2014)
It's 5 years later now, and I suggest removal of the counties from the template. I do not believe it adds useful information to the graphic and creates a visual clutter that makes the important information less readable. Any thoughts? Highspeed (talk) 05:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree; these need to be as straightforward and simple as possible. Mackensen (talk) 14:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Why do you keep deleting my edits?
My changes to rail line maps are constantly getting deleted. Now please don't revert it back! -Bluebunny2 (talk) 16:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * You keep adding useless things like Caltrain-only stations. Note the disclaimer on the edit page: Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)