Template talk:Bose

Restructure
Given the blurry distinction between the groups (eg add a wireless receiver to a Wave system and suddenly it jumps from "speaker systems" to "multimedia" systems), I propose to re-organise the groups to align more with accepted groupings of audio products (and less based on Bose's unique product groupings). The following groups are proposed:

Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 09:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * 2 channel loudspeaker systems (would be otherwise called "stereo systems" but this would cause confusion with Bose's "stereo" category which includes surround systems etc)
 * surround sound loudspeaker systems
 * Televisions
 * Headphones / Headsets


 * That's clear. I support the change. Binksternet (talk) 15:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It's done. And I've been through all the articles in the template and (hopefully!) improved their NPOV and made them more comprehensible 1292simon (talk) 06:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Phoenix, in response to your edit summaries:
 * -2.1 with virtual surround emulation is not widely considered a "surround" system.
 * -The most objective way to group these links is by counting the discreet channels of spatial info: 2 (or 2.1) means "2 channel", more than that means surround (personally I don't mind if "SoundBar" is in "surround" or a new "Soundbar" group).
 * -"Personal Audio" (as a product category) does not have an accepted meaning (the Personal Audio page only refers to a specific product), for example some people think it refers to iPods etc.
 * 1292simon (talk) 08:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Your the one saying that we should avoid what Bose calls things. Can you give me any sources for your above claims? -- Phoenix (talk) 10:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * -2.1!= surround: no mention of 2.1 in these surround sound pages: link, link, link
 * -Category based on 2 channel or more: link, link
 * -Personal audio: see above1292simon (talk) 23:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You use eBay as a source? Really? And your sources are not about stereo systems only Home theater systems and you said "no mention of 2.1 in these surround sound pages" from
 * 2.1 Speaker Systems 2.1 audio systems are not technically “surround sound,” but they are definitely a step up from simple shelf speakers (which don’t have the benefit of a subwoofer). Just as with 5.1 systems, the “2” stands for two satellite speakers -- at the left and right front -- and the “.1” stands for the subwoofer. So 2.1 sound is a great economic solution if you don’t have the money or space for what is called “true” surround sound (at least 5.1 speakers), but you still want high quality, dynamic sound.
 * Not really sure what you were trying to prove with that source or even why you were talking about 2.1 home theater systems but they do exist -- Phoenix (talk) 23:18, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

stereo vs 2 channel
Phoenix, as mentioned above, there is confusion regarding "stereo" because the Bose website lists non-stereo packages (surround, ceiling) in a category named "Stereo Loudspeakers". Please discuss before reverting again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1292simon (talk • contribs) 07:11, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Do they provide left and right channel sound? If so they are stereo. If they provide more than that they are typically surround (i.e. 5.1) -- Phoenix (talk) 07:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Totally agree! But Bose doesn't (see above), hence we need the restructure and clarification1292simon (talk) 07:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)