Template talk:Cite interview/Archive 1

Transcript?
The link for the url seems to always say "transcript". What do I do if the url is to an audio file of the interview? --Arctic Gnome 09:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC) editprotected
 * I second that. Please change the label "transcript" to some more appropriate label such as "interview".
 * ✅ earlier by someone else. Gimmetrow 08:00, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Access date?
We need an access date for the web link to the interview. J Milburn 16:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * okay...accessdate should now work for just as in the other  templates:


 * --emerson7 | Talk 05:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --emerson7 | Talk 05:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Template error?
Can someone please check why reference #2 in Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais is giving an error; last is specified? -- Avi 14:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The same thing is happening for all interview citations in Cannibal Holocaust. Helltopay27 17:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I reverted the edit that was causing the warnings. AlistairMcMillan 21:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Type?
What is the "type" field for? (Some detailed documentation would be great.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Any documentation would be great. --Jerome Potts (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I just tried it and anything put in the "type" field replaces the word "interview" in the reference as shown on the page. -  Hydroxonium  ( H3O+ ) 11:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Period, comma with "program", "city" parameters
In using this template like this:

I get:

which includes a period and a comma after the "program" parameter. Can someone more familiar with the code address this? Thanks — Bellhalla (talk) 06:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's an error in coding for the city= parameter. Line 51 says | but the leading comma in ,&amp;#32; should be removed, because every item that can be displayed prior to the city ends with punctuation. RossPatterson (talk) 14:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Happy‑melon 21:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Happy‑melon 21:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Description of fields?
Why is there no description of fields in the documentation? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

program
in the example given below....shouldn't the program name be italicised?

current: proposed: --emerson7 14:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe? I've added a category to see how this parameter is actually being used. I can't think of any cases off the top of my head that shouldn't be italicized, but may there are. --- RockMFR 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * After taking a look at a selection of the usages, it looks like this actually shouldn't always be italicized. Sometimes the program param is used for network names, or library names, or other things that are not italicized. In cases where there should be italics, they are usually there. Looks like it would be best to just add the italics manually when needed. --- RockMFR 00:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

"preferred" date format? what about MOS:SYL
According to MOS:SYL full dates should always be linked. Just stumbled across this... Thought I should ask... ~ Paul T +/C 08:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Why doesn't this template follow the other cite xxx templates and automatically link the date?
 * 2) Why is it specified that the "date" field shouldn't have any wikilinks?

E-mail interviews?
These days, e-mail interviews are extremely common, yet "format" is limited to "Transcript", "Audio" and "Video". And what if the interview is unpublished? I interviewed the daughter of Katsuji Matsumoto for the article about him, but can't find a better way to cite it than what I currently have. It was suggested that I use this template, but the result, using the fields available, is not very informative. Or am I overlooking some clever way to the fields available? Matt Thorn (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about email interviews, but I'd probably use "Transcript" unless there's something peculiar about the format of the published interview itself (e.g., the full text of each email published as a separate document on the web). I believe the format parameter is intended to distinguish between the delivery format of the interview, so the reader knows to expect the playback of a video or audio stream.  RossPatterson (talk) 15:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the medium and format, unpublished information can't be used as a reference for Wikipedia articles. All references have to be verifiable, and by definition something that isn't available to others can't be verified.  You'd be better off waiting for your article to be published and then citing the article instead, either with this template or one more appropriate to the published work.  RossPatterson (talk) 15:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Quote
I think the template needs a separate "quote=" parameter, much like other cite templates. Especially that in most cases there's no easier way of pointing the reader to a particular quote, as interview transcripts barely ever have page numbers.  // Halibutt 07:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Gezzza talk 08:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please:
 * Put the proposed code on /sandbox.
 * Fully test it on /testcases.
 * Obtain a consensus for the change on this page.
 * Re-apply the editprotected.
 * Best wishes &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:10, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All ✅. Gezzza talk 11:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a pain but I see no evidence for the 2nd or 3rd steps suggested above. It is possible that no one is going to comment on this proposal, in which case we could assume silent consensus, but I would like to see the testcases. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, you are right I did missed the test case, I have added a test case. d'oh! talk 13:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm still not sure this is the best way to go. To attribute a quote to a particular source it is better to put an inline reference directly after the quote. Anyway I've added this for now. Could you update the documentation? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have updated the doc. I agree, but I used the quote attribute with other cite templates to direct readers in the section where I got the reference from, for things like interview transcripts, or other huge walls of text (that is not paginate). d'oh! talk 10:29, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Formatting issue - blank lines after use of template
I notice that there have some trailing blank lines after the entry when I use this template. When I use other citation templates, such as cite news and cite web, I can make a bulleted list with either and then follow it with a trailing blank line or not, and it renders the same - as would be for such list. However, when I use the interview template with a trailing blank line, it renders as if there are one or more blank lines. It only renders traditionally if there is no blank line between list items. Please make this template consistent with the others. Thanks. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 14:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you give an example? RossPatterson (talk) 19:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

URL and redundancy
At present, completing the url field results in an extra, parenthesised external link named Interview.

For example,

yields

It seems redundant to mention twice that the source is an interview; would "Interview with Giuseppe Salza" or even "Interview with Giuseppe Salza" not work better? As it stands, the template is inconsistent with cite web, which embeds the link in the name of the source. Thoughts? Skomorokh 18:48, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I completely agree.-- 2008 Olym pian chit chat 07:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Organization as author
The current template does not support (or at least documented)  as was needed in The Backyardigans article. — Dispenser 02:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Date linking
The template is linking dates automatically, no ISO format required. It links American style dates, which, if you use today's date, gives a red link. Can an admin please fix it? Cite web, cite news, etc., do not do this, so it has to be a problem with cite interview.-- 2008 Olym pian chit chat 07:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Remove linking of accessdate
Please remove the default linking of the accessdate field. I suspect this stems from when the norm was to write dates in the ISO YYYY-MM-DD format and link them for automatic formatting, but since that practice has for the most part passed, I would like to be able to fill in this field without linking (since linking a date like 2 March 2009 gives a red link). Mr. Absurd (talk) 04:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. ✅. Thanks, Martinmsgj 10:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Archivedate, archiveurl
Shouldn't these two fields be included on this template? __meco (talk) 17:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. This would be similar to the |archiveurl and |archivedate parameters used in Template:Cite web and Template:Cite news. Cunard (talk) 10:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you put the proposed code on the /sandbox? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, though I am uncertain whether or not the code is correct. Cunard (talk) 11:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * :) Could you test it then? I've created /testcases. Please add the new parameter to this and check it does what you intend it to do. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there someone I could ask to fix the code? It is not working, and I have little knowledge about the how the template code works. Cunard (talk) 22:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I can have a go, if you can clearly describe the behaviour you desire. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:12, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I want Template:Cite interview to have the |archiveurl= |archivedate= parameters that Template:Cite web and Template:Cite news have. For example, Template:Cite news with those two parameters show the following:

However Template:Cite interview with the two parameters shows this:

Thank you for taking a look at this! Cunard (talk) 10:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I posted a query to Template talk:Citation about whether that meta-template could be used for this template but I have had no response yet. If no one answers soon I will have to just try it out and see. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've also posted a query at Village pump (technical)/Archive 132 to see if anyone there knows. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just so people don't go looking, neither have replies as of this date. The latter is archived. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 14:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

✅. But I was lazy and didn't make this use the template:citation/core meta template. At least the archive parameters and internals work exactly the same as there, so this change made porting it not any harder. Amalthea 15:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The parameters work, and that's all that matters. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Year and Month Fields
Year and month fields don't work? With |date=29 |year=2010 |month=March, the result was "29". I just put the entire date in the date= parameter as the workaround. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ <sub style="color:#5100CC;">galaxies  18:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It would probably need to be "|day=" but there is no such parameter in the template. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 14:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe a single  parameter is preferred, these days, since you don't have to bother with any mdy/dmy parameters. Other citation template still support them, I believe, but only for legacy reasons, and they are no longer mentioned in the documentation.  Amalthea  15:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks both of you. I guess it's somewhat explained on the template page and I hadn't noticed. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ <sub style="color:#5E1FFF;">galaxies  16:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Name parameter not implemented
The name parameters don't seem to appear, only the subject. Shouldn't the name parameters be implemented in the case of an interview where the interviewee talks about the subject, rather than him/herself? Not all interviews talk about the interviewee. -Temporal User (Talk) 09:02, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Page numbers
Could someone add page/pages parameters to this template? I'm currently trying to cite a single page from a PDF transcription of an interview. --Gyrobo (talk) 01:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Could a page(s) parameter please be added to this template? It's helpful to allow for pagination when citing interview transcripts. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Please make the required changes to Template:Cite interview/sandbox and fully test it. Then reactivate the request, thanks. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:34, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd love to, but I'm a terrible coder, so I'll rephrase: could someone who knows how to do this figure out how and add it? Nikkimaria (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've made the appropriate changes to the sandbox page. Could this please be added to the template? --Gyrobo (talk) 13:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a pain, but could you assure me that you have tested the changes and that everything works as intended? Looking at the code, I'm not sure the punctuation is going to work correctly. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Cite interview/sandbox works for this citation I took from Hudson Valley Rail Trail:
 * I've tried it with a dummy archiveurl and archivedate, and that also seems solid. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure about the period followed by a lowercase letter, but if that's okay then fine. I've deployed. Would you be able to update the documentation? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:03, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, the documentation has been updated. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, the documentation has been updated. --Gyrobo (talk) 16:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

update to citation/core
Sandbox version at cite interview/sandbox has been updated to use citation/core.

cite interview

cite interview/sandbox

cite book

This makes the template compatible with Help:Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 02:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * cite interview
 * cite interview/sandbox
 * Is it suppose to remove the title?  « ₣M₣ »  21:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it suppose to remove the title?  « ₣M₣ »  21:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Is it suppose to remove the title?  « ₣M₣ »  21:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed. Thanks for catching it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 23:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Should there be a period or comma after program? There was previously a period. The same goes for callsign. --Gyrobo (talk) 00:33, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Current version does not have a period after the program, but I added one to the sandbox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 15:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)


 * If there are no further comments, I will update this within the week. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:00, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

✅ ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 09:58, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Getting some clarification to make sure I completely understand...
The "last" and "first" slots are for the people being asked the questions, right? And the interviewer slot is for the person conducting the interview/asking the questions, correct? I'm slightly confused by the way the template is outputting these parameters, so I wanted to make sure I had their purposes correct. Also, does the cointerviewers parameter require the interviewer parameter to have information? I ask because it doesn't seem to do anything if I put both interviewers into it and leave the singular interviewer slot blank. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:06, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I tweaked that part of the documentation. Please review it and comment as needed. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it makes a lot more sense now. Thanks. :) - Purplewowies (talk) 15:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay... new question:




 * puts out




 * Is there supposed to be a period separation between Mike and Sally? - Purplewowies (talk) 18:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * When I updated this template, I kept cointerviewers since it was already in use. Looking at how it is implemented, I think it would be better to use: Johnson, Mike; Stoner, Alyson
 * Thus, the interviewers use the same last, first format as the subjects. If this looks right, I will update the doc. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 19:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks right to me. Thanks for your help again. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:41, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Removing et al
Apparently, it's possible to replace et al with the name of a ninth subject with "|display-authors = 9", however, this doesn't seem to do anything for me.

The ref should list Ice Cream as the ninth, but it doesn't. Either I'm doing something wrong, or it really isn't possible. In the latter case, the doc shouldn't say it is. But the ninth subject would be wonderful as this interview (panel, actually) has exactly nine interviewees. ~ Ten Ton  Parasol  02:27, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

The template will never show nine authors. I updated the documentation to better explain 9:


 * display-authors: By default, the number of authors displayed is limited to 8; if 9 are provided, the ninth is displayed as "et al." This parameter allows display of fewer authors before the "et al."; example: 2; if there are 8 or fewer authors, then "et al." may be suppressed by setting 9.

---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 12:11, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is not in, but is a feature common to all the and  templates, since it shows if we call  directly:
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I get it. So (on a slightly related note), I guess it would be bad form for me to list the nine subjects under authors (as opposed to individually listing them under separate parameters), wouldn't it? ~ Ten Ton  Parasol  19:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I get it. So (on a slightly related note), I guess it would be bad form for me to list the nine subjects under authors (as opposed to individually listing them under separate parameters), wouldn't it? ~ Ten Ton  Parasol  19:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)