Template talk:Countries and territories of Oceania/Archive 1

Addition of Australia
What are you doing Cantus? Australia is not a pacific island and link to the List of countries was part of the original template. --Jiang 05:08, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


 * You said it yourself, Australia is not part of the Pacific Islands. Oceania is synonymous with the Pacific Islands in the narrow sense, acccording to the Oceania article. Australia is its own continent. This is made clear in Template:Continent. See:
 * Continent


 * Australia is listed as a continent, with a note about the Pacific Islands aka Oceania not being part of any continent. It makes no sense to add Australia to them.


 * Also, no continent MediaWiki has 'Countries of the World' in the title. If you are ignorant about the issue, don't edit at all. Thanks. And please don't turn this into a revert war or protect it for your advantage.


 * --Cantus 05:23, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

The wider sense of Oceania includes Australia. I see no reason to limit Oceania to the "narrow sense." john k 05:38, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


 * See my reasons above. Try to side with me ONCE in your LIFETIME. --Cantus 05:40, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


 * 1) most of your reasons above are based on citing evidence from articles that you wrote. This is entirely dubious.  As to siding with you once in my lifetime, I'm perfectly willing to side with you if I think you're right.  IMHO, your edits to these kind of articles are essentially trolling, and I'm not going to have any truck with them.  At any rate, I expected the remainder of my lifetime to be quite a while, so I see little chance that I will miss my sole chance to agree with you.  Best. john k 05:46, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

Someone removed the link to "List of countries" that was in the original page break in the original template. You have choice - either to allow these links to stay in these footers, are have all footers removed to adhere to the template. "List of countries" must be linked somewhere in each country article. You please tell me where.

We should link the continents footer in the australia article. However, it does not include the other countries in the region. Since australia is both, we should include both the continents and oceania footer. It's not wrong to include Australia in Oceania. It's commonly does so. --Jiang 05:42, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


 * It sounds strange to put 'Countries of the World' and then 'Africa' as if Africa was a country of the world. It should be:


 * Continents of the World | Africa | Countries (linking to Countries of the world)


 * Regarding the addition of Australia to Pacific Islands, we should make another MediaWiki called Oceania, and include Australia in that one, and use it only for Australia.


 * --Cantus 05:52, 30 May 2004 (UTC)


 * If the mediawiki is used only in one place, it's not necessary to create one. What's wrong with putting the OCeania one at the PAcific Islands? The name of the MW doesn't really matter so modifying this one is enough.


 * If you find the format strange, the take issue at the wikiproject. That's how it had been done for over a year before you showed up. Your "compromise" does not include the link like I asked. Please include the link or be reverted. --Jiang 06:05, 30 May 2004 (UTC)