Template talk:Country data United States/Archive 1

Flag variants
I added the variants per. Note that the variants docu can be edited at Template:Country data United States/doc which doesn't need to be protected as it is transcluded into noinclude land here (and thus cannot affect articles). --Ligulem 09:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Some variant flags don't render in default size
I noticed that for example:
 * 🇺🇸 united states = 🇺🇸 united states

which is expanded as:
 * [[Image:US flag 20 stars.svg|22x20px|Flag of United States]] United States = [[Image:US flag 20 stars.svg|22x20px|Flag of United States]] United States

erroneously shows up as a blank area. I have no idea why this happens.

Interestingly, specifying a slightly larger non-default size causes the flag to display fine:
 * 🇺🇸 united states = 🇺🇸 united states

According to our Bohemian family geneology, an early and expert downhill skier in the 17th century was Petroslav Havel, a very distant relative of past Czech president Vaclav Havel, and a four-century predecessor to a Milwaukee, Wiconsonsin, skiiing enthusiast named Peter Anthony Hovel (somewhere along the line of descendants the "a" was transmuted to "o.")This is a bit of historical trivia, but still of interest to siing buffs. --Ligulem 09:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I posted at the tech pump: WP:VPT. --Ligulem 09:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Solved by purging the cache on commons (Credit: User:Van helsing ). --Ligulem 12:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

1777 flag not appearing
Image exists and seems OK, but does not render on the template page in the examples, nor when the template is used. — SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93;   ‹(-¿-)› 20:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Show how you are trying to use it, please. (SEWilco 20:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC))
 * Just look at the non-talk page attached to this one; the example where it is used is blank, in both Mac and Windows. I've narrowed it down to the fact that the SVG image does not display if sized to 22px or smaller.  At 23px and up, it works fine.  Test case:
 * 22px: [[Image:US flag 13 stars – Betsy Ross.svg|22px]] &lArr; no icon visible, but clicking the blank space goes to image page.
 * 23px: [[Image:US flag 13 stars – Betsy Ross.svg|23px]]
 * Just tested this test case in both Safari/MacOS X, and Firefox/Win XP.
 * — SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93;   ‹(-¿-)› 23:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

This is an SVG bug.  V 6 0  干什么？ · VDemolitions  ·  ER 3 00:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Check this out (XML source):

Original version of the 1936 flag, made in Adobe Illustrator:

Now, a new version uploaded after saving with Inkscape:

The problem is caused by the <!ENTITY tags that are on the original version.  V 6 0  干什么？ · VDemolitions  ·  ER 3 01:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I saved a new version of Image:US flag 13 stars – Betsy Ross.svg on Commons that should work. I simply opened the file and re-saved as "plain SVG" in Inkscape.  The resultant file was far simpler, at only 5K, consisting of just the stripe and star polygons without all the extra crap.  As soon as the cache is updated, that should fix the problem here.  Andrwsc 22:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

On the template page i see the 1777 flag as having a circular ring of stars, but where the template is used on a page (eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States) the 1777 flag stars are in a grid not a circle. why is that? Cilstr (talk) 14:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

alias-1960
Shouldn't there be a specific variant for the 50-star flag, to future-proof this? --Random832 08:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea. Especially with all the talk of a possible new 51st state, would be nice to have a variant for the current 50 star flag. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 03:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅: I've added the 1960 alias to the template, Random832. Illegitimate Barrister 08:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Football name alias
editprotected

Can the following parameter be added? | name alias-football = USA

FIFA officially uses this name, so we should too. Thanks. —MC 23:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 00:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Why this line had been deleted?

Nationality
Please add the parameter nationality so that American instead of only United States can also be used. ~ RayLast  « Talk! » 21:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Your request doesn't make sense. There is no   parameter that is used within the flag template system, so adding anything to this template would have no effect.  You can simply use   to do what you want.  However, since American is a disambiguation page, I would think that is a bad idea.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Field hockey
Can somebody name United States as USA in for field hockey team name? Because USA is the name use by FIH. Thanks! --Aleen f 1 06:44, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Add U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey and NOAA flags? And how?
Hi, I'm looking for help. I have read the WikiProject Flag Template page, but am still a little over my head, and I'm not sure I'm allowed to do what I want to without administrator help and so forth.

Since we have the Army and Air Force flags and the Coast Guard Ensign, I am hoping to add the United States Coast and Geodetic Survey (USC&GS) flag (at File:U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey flag.png -- in use as the ensign of the USC&GS from 1899 to 1970 when it became a part of NOAA -- and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) flag (at File:NOAA Flag.svg -- in use since 1970 -- as variants (if that is the right term) alongside the Coast Guard ensign, etc., so that they would be available as icons, too. That way we would have ensigns of two more of the U.S. government seagoing services -- a current one (NOAA) and one of its ancestors (USC&GS).

Judging by the Wikiproject Flag page, this would involve something along the lines of setting up a template with alias = United States and flag alias-USC&GS = U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey flag.png (for the USC&GS flag) and flag alias-NOAA = NOAA Flag.svg (for NOAA). But I'm not sure I've understood that properly.

My questions are: (1) Would these two additions be permitted? (I don't see why they would not be if we have the Coast Guard ensign, but I don't know if there is a consensus otherwise.) (2) Would I be entering the right information into the templates if I do what I describe above? (I dread breaking something and getting all of Wikiworld mad at me.) (3) If so, would "variant = variant|USC&GS" and "variant = variant|NOAA" work? (4) And what should "name" be entered as -- "name = name|United States" for both, or "name = name|United States Coast and Geodetic Survey" and "name = name|National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration"? Or have I got this all wrong and need a simpler explanation than I found on the page? I'd appreciate any help so that I can get this right and not tromp on any toes. Mdnavman (talk) 20:05, 17 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * Well, no, most of what you are suggesting would not work. But I don't think a lot of work is needed either.  It appears as though you want these two flags to be used with shipboxflag for the   parameter of Infobox Ship Career, alongside USN flag.  In that case, you'd simply add two variants (e.g.   and , with no other changes needed).  But I suppose before we add that, we should confirm if WP:SHIPS consensus is to use those flags.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If these are intended to be used in ship infoboxes (which is an assumption on my part), I have a question: Are these flags actually ensigns—meaning that they are what is flown from the stern of the ship instead of the stars-and-stripes U.S. flag—or are they service flags—meaning they are what, say, a color guard would display in a parade? In the case of the U.S. Navy and historical ships of the U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force, the ensign was identical to the current national flag. So, for example, for a World War II U.S. Army transport ship, the infobox should properly display:
 * which is the U.S. national ensign, rather than:
 * the U.S. Army service flag.
 * I'm no expert on NOAA, the USC&GS, or other predecessors to know for sure, but, as far as I am aware, only the U.S. Coast Guard flies a different ensign. — Bellhalla (talk) 21:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The NOAA flag is flown from commissioned NOAA ships to show that they are in commission as NOAA ships, and has been flown by the ships since NOAA was established in 1970. The United States Coast and Geodetic Survey was one of the seagoing predecessors of NOAA, and from 1899 to 1970 had its own flag, which its ships flew at the highest point on the forwardmost mast (not the fantail) while they were in commission. (Prior to 1899, the USC&GS merely flew the U.S. Navy ensign, and the USC&GS flag was adopted to show that USC&GS ships commissioned ships of that service, not commissioned Navy ships.) Just as the Coast Guard ensign shows that a Coast Guard ship is in commission in the Coast Guard, the USC&GS flag served and the NOAA flag today serves exactly the same function. This is in sharp contrast to the U.S. Navy service flag, which Navy ships do not fly, or, as mentioned above, the analogous Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps flags.
 * To see an example of how the flags were/are flown on commissioned ships, see the photos at USC&GS McArthur (1874) and note the USC&GS flag flying from the foremast to show that McArthur is in commission in the USC&GS. See also The NOAA Service Flag and Sea Flags: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration; the latter says "The current NOAA service flag, normally displayed at the masthead of the forwardmost mast as a distinctive mark of a NOAA vessel in commission, was adapted from the Coast and Geodetic Survey flag by adding the NOAA emblem." As you can see from the McArthur photos, the USC&GS flag was displayed in exactly the same way, NOAA having adopted the USC&GS regulations after absorbing the USC&GS.
 * In short, the USC&GS flag was and the NOAA flag is the equivalent of the U.S. Navy ensign and the U.S. Coast Guard ensign, flown by ships in commission; I do not see why we would not elevate them to equal status with the Coast Guard ensign in this template and allow everyone access to it just like we do for the Coast Guard ensign. Uses include in shipbox templates just like other government seagoing service flags of the United States and other countries. I also note that small icons for the flags/ensigns of specific seagoing services of various countries by historical era are beginning to appear in tables and lists (such as some of the the "Maritime Incidents in Year XXXX" and "List of Shipwrecks in Year XXXX" pages). I suspect people are a little suspicious of these flags because naval and coast guard ensigns are better publicized, but they logically and by U.S. government regulation fulfill the same role. I hope this information helps. Mdnavman (talk) 01:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * The second link you gave is a personal-type website which would probably not be the best source to rely upon for changes to this template. (Sites like that are typically not considered reliable.) But, if we assume that the information is correct, I note that what you quoted from that site says "The current NOAA service flag…" (emphasis added). I also note that farther down, it also says "NOAA vessels display the national ensign and union jack in the same manner as those of the Navy…". Both of these lead me to believe that the ensign of NOAA (and probably that of USC&GS by extension) is the Ensign of the United States, the flag flown on all military or quasi-military U.S. ships—except for those of the U.S. Coast Guard, which has its own unique ensign. (And just to make sure we're all on the same page: ensign and service flag are not synonyms and describe two distinct types of flags.) Given that consensus for ship infoboxes has always been to display only the ensign—not the jack or service flag, despite numerous examples of articles that do this—I don't think that the NOAA and USC&GS flags need to be added to the template. — Bellhalla (talk) 05:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I did a random spot check of ship images from NOAA in their Ships: The Active Fleet image gallery. In ship images where there were identifiable flags, I saw only the stars-and-stripes U.S. flag and no examples of the NOAA service flag. — Bellhalla (talk) 05:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The NOAA official site verifies what the personal site said, that the flag flies from the top of the forwardmost mast of NOAA ships in commission, just as in the USC&GS. The USC&GS McArthur (1874) page clearly shows this in two photos. I'm not sure why we would need to find a close-up photo of a NOAA ship to confirm that NOAA ships follow NOAA regulations as stated by the NOAA official site and think the research I have shared here is conclusive, but if I ever find such a photo I will let you know.  Be that as it may, I guess the Wikipedia policy is more restrictive than I had imagined about exactly which key identifying flag may be considered officially an ensign, and that is the end of that for now.  I personally believe that the USC&GS and NOAA flags make better service-affiliation icons than the generic USN ensign for non-USN ships, just as the Coast Guard ensign does for the Coast Guard, and therefore are more informative for the general Wikipedia-reading public researching the other seagoing services, but that's just my opinion, and we all have opinions, right? Anyway, I tried. Thanks! Mdnavman (talk) 15:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * Not meaning to point out the obvious, I will say that the McArthur photos clearly show the U.S. national flag being flown as the ship's ensign. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Separate from Belhalla's a and my discussion above of the USC&GS and NOAA flags as ensigns for use aboard ships, there is also the question of the inclusion of flags on this template for other purposes. Is this template strictly for national flags, state/territory flags, and service ensigns flown on ships?  Or can/should other types of government and service flags be made available here as well? Or is there just no provision for such flags in Wikipedia's flag project template scheme? And, finally, should there be?  Should the Navy and Marine Corps service flags, for example, be available for use as flag icons, etc.? And, if they should, then why not the NOAA and USC&GS flags? After all, the EU flag is available, historical country flags and empires are available, and sports team flags seem to be a big deal in the WikiFlag Project, so why not U.S. government service flags? Or is there another template somewhere where service flags that are not ensigns flown aboard ships supposed to go? They might be a useful feature in Wikipedia in some contexts. Mdnavman (talk) 16:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * I'll leave the main question to others, but I must point out that there's no evidence that the NOAA and USC&GS flags are, or are intended to be, ensigns as you are suggesting in your first sentence. In fact, quite the contrary, there is compelling evidence (to me, at least) that they are not ensigns and that the U.S. national flag is the ensign flown from these ships. And again, I am using ensign in the standard sense of a flag flown from the stern of a ship to identify its nationality. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Understood. I was only referring to what our discussion was about, not the subject of whether or not they were strictly speaking "ensigns." It appears that they are flown by regulation on all commissioned ships to identify their service affiliation as ensigns are, but in this particular case are not themselves ensigns under the strictest definition of the term; they probably are more analogous to other flags flown by regulation by all ships of a service which are not ensigns; the First Navy Jack (I think that is its official name; it is the "Don't Tread on Me: flag) springs to mind becaude it is flown by regulation on all U.S. Navy ships since 11 September 2001, but that does not make it an ensign. I think we can put the issue to bed. Mdnavman (talk) 05:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * @Mdnavman, I would say that the flag template system is merely designed to facilitate the rendering of flag images (usually in icon size) in a more convenient way than plain MediaWiki image syntax. WP:WikiProject Flag Template makes no statement about where they should be used; that is where other project consensus comes into play (such as the use of ensigns from WP:SHIPS) or site-wide MOS guidelines (WP:Manual of Style (icons)).  For this template, new entries are only added when there is a need to reduce extended wiki markup into an existing flag template.  We have army and air force templates, and those seem to be used predominantly with Infobox military person (for the   parameter), so that's why those flag variants are available here.  For historical flags, they are used a lot with Infobox military conflict and even for old sports results (e.g. 1896 Olympics).  But in all cases, I would say that there was local consensus to use flag icons in particular situations before we created flag templates for them.  These templates are not a repository of flag images just in case they might be used sometime; the consensus for usage comes first.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I never saw any explanation of that anywhere as I wss trying to figure out the logic behind how all of this works, which is what got this line of inquiry all started in the first place. But now I understand this template better, what it is used for, and how it is modified. Mdnavman (talk) 05:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman
 * @Mdnavman, I would say that the flag template system is merely designed to facilitate the rendering of flag images (usually in icon size) in a more convenient way than plain MediaWiki image syntax. WP:WikiProject Flag Template makes no statement about where they should be used; that is where other project consensus comes into play (such as the use of ensigns from WP:SHIPS) or site-wide MOS guidelines (WP:Manual of Style (icons)).  For this template, new entries are only added when there is a need to reduce extended wiki markup into an existing flag template.  We have army and air force templates, and those seem to be used predominantly with Infobox military person (for the   parameter), so that's why those flag variants are available here.  For historical flags, they are used a lot with Infobox military conflict and even for old sports results (e.g. 1896 Olympics).  But in all cases, I would say that there was local consensus to use flag icons in particular situations before we created flag templates for them.  These templates are not a repository of flag images just in case they might be used sometime; the consensus for usage comes first.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I never saw any explanation of that anywhere as I wss trying to figure out the logic behind how all of this works, which is what got this line of inquiry all started in the first place. But now I understand this template better, what it is used for, and how it is modified. Mdnavman (talk) 05:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)mdnavman

Add new alias for United States Coast Guard ensign
Can someone help add an alias for the United States Coast Guard ensign? The flag is at File:Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg and the link should go to United States Coast Guard. It would be ideal if one could, for example, type: and get: Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg United States Coast Guard
 * Template:Navy does not generate alternate links when alternate flag variants are selected, so that will not work. Navy USCG was created some time ago for precisely this purpose, so you can use that instead. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of that. Thanks! — Bellhalla (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

✅ This works now, so we can deprecate and delete Template:Navy USCG. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from Shingkei, 30 December 2010
I would like to add this line


 * name alias-football = USA

Shingkei (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * ❌ If you had read the discussion a couple of sections above, you would see that consensus decided to remove this parameter. Get consensus to change a parameter before requesting again.  K rakatoa    K atie   05:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Editing request for badminton
Can some one add this line:

Because in badminton, United States simply known as USA. Thanks. --Aleen f 1 13:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

alias-army (Army flag)
File:Army flag.gif has been deleted because it is now on the Commons as File:Flag of the United States Army (1775).gif. This template needs to be updated with the corrected link because many pages call for "Army flag.gif" through the Flagicon template and by extension the Army template. Sycamore (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Add New Flag alias for Navy
Can someone please add flag alias for the U.S. Navy


 * flag alias-naval = Navy flag.gif

--Bigo81 (talk) 13:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ SkierRMH  ( talk ) 03:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ❌ I have reverted this change. Per WP:SHIPS consensus, the naval ensign is used for the naval flag variant, and officially, the standard national flag is the naval ensign of the U.S.  See prior discussion on this talk page also.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅: I have created a new template to accommodate your request. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 23:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request (16 November 2013)
Please replace the Image:Flag of the United States Army (1775).gif with Image:Flag of the United States Army.png --Сербијана (talk) 17:18, 16. November 2013.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The new image is nearly twice as large as the old one (in file size), but is 100% pixel identical. I see no advantage in doing this. I've updated the Commons pages to make this clear. If I'm missing something, please let me know. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:57, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * If I remember correctly, Wikimedia Commons prefers the PNG format over GIF, regardless of filesize. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister 18:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit request (1 April 2014)
Please edit the template from this:

| flag alias-air force = Flag of the United States Air Force.png | flag alias-coast guard = Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg

to this:

| flag alias-air force = Flag of the United States Air Force.png | flag alias-coast guard = Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg | flag alias-coast guard-1915 = Ensign of the United States Coast Guard (1915-1953).png

Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 18:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Using flag - 🇺🇸 United States, 🇺🇸 United States
 * Using navy -, , [default]
 * ✅ This also needed a change to the link alias-naval parameter. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:42, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, sorry about that. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit request (2 April 2014)
Please edit the template from this:

| flag alias-1908 = US flag 46 stars.svg | flag alias-1912 = US flag 48 stars.svg | flag alias-1959 = US flag 49 stars.svg

to this:

| flag alias-1908 = US flag 46 stars.svg | flag alias-1912 = US flag 48 stars.svg | flag alias-1959 = US flag 49 stars.svg | flag alias-pantone = Flag of the United States (Pantone).svg

Thanks! Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 17:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure country data templates usually include alternative colorings of flags as variants. At least neither Switzerland nor Australia does. SiBr4 (talk) 18:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Not done, as the resolution won't show much of a difference between the two. Also, per the above comment, I would like to see some examples of alternate flags being used before it is added. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:53, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Problem with the fb template
Hey I was wondering if anyone can help me out with a problem I'm having. Here is the copy from WT:FOOTY:

How can we make it so that when you do 🇺🇸 united states, instead of getting "USA," you get "United States?" I don't think that it is right that the default name be "USA," especially since the article is located at United States men's national football team and not USA men's national football team. I think the same thing could also be done for the "fbw" template as well. Most Americans refer to the team as the "U.S. (men's) national team" or the "United States," not as the "USA" or "USA (men's) national team," and I think that should be respected and/or reflected by the template. --  Grant  .  Alpaugh  00:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't easily, as the fb template uses the templates made by WikiProject Flag Template to display the correct flags. The actual data setting is held in Template:Country data United States with the following lines -

You may find that asking there for an addition to be made along the lines of the following might be useful to you - Please note that I only glanced over the template so have no idea if this will really work. Also note that if you do change the default, this may impact on a number of tables with respect to width etc. Nanonic (talk) 02:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * name alias-football = USA
 * link alias-football = United States national soccer team
 * name alias-footballalt = United States
 * link alias-footballalt = United States national soccer team


 * — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Not completely fixed. This redirection line ... ... links to the redirect page. So, it would therefore be O.K. to edit it for a direct link as follows:

Thanks, Maiō T. (talk) 21:05, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * In other words, the template code:  →  creates link to: United States under-18 men's national soccer team (redirect page) instead of: United States men's national under-18 soccer team (regular page). Maiō T. (talk) 16:35, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅— cyberpower Chat Online 18:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Maiō T. (talk) 14:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit request (28 May 2014)
The raster U.S. Army flag now has an SVG version available. Please replace the GIF version with it.

| flag alias-army = Flag of the United States Army (1775).gif

to this:

| flag alias-army = Flag of the United States Army.svg

Thanks. Illegitimate Barrister 15:14, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅. SiBr4 (talk) 15:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * . Thanks a bunch! Illegitimate Barrister 16:05, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit request (28 May 2014)
The raster U.S. Air Force flag now has an SVG version available. Please replace the PNG version with it.

| flag alias-air force = Flag of the United States Air Force.png

to this:

| flag alias-air force = Flag of the United States Air Force.svg

Thanks. Illegitimate Barrister 16:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * . Thanks a bunch. Illegitimate Barrister 16:34, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

A few things
First, why is there the Air Force flag, but not the Navy or Army (Or Marines)?

Secondly, since we have Country data Confederate States of America, we should have something here that returns a flag and "Union", only what flag? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 08:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


 * To answer your first question, the standard US flag is the naval ensign, so there is no need for a special variant. See Ensign of the United States. The conventions used by editors of WikiProject Ships are to use naval ensigns in article infoboxes, etc.  Note that the   template works as expected:  → .  As for the army or marines, there are no instances where flag icons are needed for those flag types, so none have been added to any of the Category:Country data templates, not just this one.  If there is a future need for army flag icons for multiple countries, then it's easy to expand this template for that purpose, but in the meantime, we don't want to add unnecessary clutter to the country data templates.  They are templates after all, not directories of all possible flag variants.
 * I can't completely answer your second question, because I don't know what you mean. Could you please explain the problem you are trying to solve?  Would you not just use  (or   or  ) to get the correct flag variant for those years? Thanks — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * We now have variants for the Army and Air Force flags, as ships are not the only place the template is used (e.g. personnel). Still no way at all to render Navy flag using this template, though. Many hours are wasted by editors having to work their way through these templates, only to find out that the Navy is inconsistent with the other branches. Whatever Flag of the United States Navy (official specifications).svg is called (jack, flag, etc.), can we have a variant that produces it please? —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 17:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Alan, I've created a template for the U.S. Navy. It can be found here. Regards, Illegitimate Barrister 04:26, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 August 2014
Please edit the link-alias-basketball line to | link alias-basketball = United States national  basketball team because the template →  incorrectly links to the United States women's national basketball team instead of United States women's national under-18 basketball team.

Maiō T. (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. SiBr4 (talk) 09:35, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 2 May 2015
Please add this line:

Thanks, Maiō T. (talk) 18:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 6 November 2015
North Dakota has &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; after the flag image instead of a single &amp;nbsp;. it is present on pages that include the flag as well, e.g. List of states and territories of the United States. I can't seem to find where the duplicate &amp;nbsp; is present though.

Penguin (talk) 11:28, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It's being added by Template:Flag/core because the default size parameter in Template:Country data North Dakota is 23x16px. To change this you would need to get a consensus Template talk:Flag/core, and you should bear in mind that such a change would affect all flag templates. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 11:43, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * tests the value of size that's passed into it. If that is 23x16px, as with, an extra  is added. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:49, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * . Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the answer. Penguin (talk) 09:57, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Navy - I don't understand
I've read the previous comments regarding the naval ensign but didn't understand the changes? If we did:

{ {flagicon|United States|naval} }

would the naval jack appear? If not, then how come its not changed? I know this has been discussed but I just didn't understand what they meant. (Central Data Bank (talk))
 * The ensign appears. In this case, the U.S. ensign is the same as the U.S. flag. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

A small suggestion
In the document section, I think the section "This template is used on 30,000 pages" needs to be placed at the starting of the template from its current position under current information section. Adithyak1997 (talk) 18:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

US Revenue Cutter Service
Please add the following entries to support the ensigns of the United States Revenue Cutter Service (known as the United States Revenue-Marine until 1894), predecessor of the Coast Guard:


 * flag alias-coast guard-1799 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1799).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1815 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1815).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1836 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1836).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1841 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1841).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1867 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1867).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1868 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1868).png
 * flag alias-coast guard-1894 = Ensign of the United States Revenue-Marine (1894).png
 * link alias-coast guard=

The new flag aliases are added allow correct ensign to be displayed for these periods, and the last line is an update of the current link alias-coast guard line with support for the new year variants added which will display the correct name of the service. Hopefully I got the syntax right... Thanks! Josh (talk) 00:04, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I've put this in sandbox version sandbox and testcases which work fine apart from the 1894 version which is missing an image. Please check the results in the testcases and adjust sandbox if there are problems. --Salix alba (talk): 08:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Minus the 1894 version which is lacking an image. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 18 March 2020
Per the CDC your numbers are incorrect on numbers of cases in the United States by over 2,000. Our country is panicking enough without over-inflating numbers and thinking wikipedia is a reliable source. Fix it! 64.188.185.52 (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Izno (talk) 17:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Edit request - Add Space Force flag
Would someone please be able to add  to the template? My understanding is that it will display the Space Force flag properly when template:space force is used in this manner. Thank you! Garuda28 (talk) 13:37, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Using the SVG version of the flag S.A. Julio (talk) 14:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Other two uniformed services
Could we get the flags of the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps added here? Images are provided below.



Jak525 (talk) 01:21, Wednesday, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
 * You're better off just creating a new Template:Country data XYZ for those. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Military flag sizing issue
It looks like the US Air Force/Space Force flags are smaller by default than the Navy/Marine Corps/Coast Guard/Army flags. Would some one be able to/point me in the right direction to get that fixed (preferably standardize with the Army/Navy/MC/CG format?) Garuda28 (talk) 06:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Data template for Space Force
I was wondering if this page should have a link to Template:Country data United States Space Force, similar to the other country data templates for the armed services.

Painting17 (talk) 22:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 June 2022
Change 1777 flag to File:Flag_of_the_United_States_(1777–1795).svg due to the Betsy Ross flag never being the official United States flag Gelid Lagopus (talk) 16:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'r there 07:58, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gelid Lagopus (talk) 00:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

edit protected-request - July 5, 2022
Can you switch the flag of the United States Coast Guard from File:Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg to File:Flag of the United States Coast Guard.svg? Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 16:15, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'r there 06:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

edit protected-request - July 31, 2022
Please add  so the Ensign of the Coast Guard can be added. Thank you Jauhsekali (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 4 September 2022
May you please add "File:Ensign of the United States Coast Guard.svg" with the label "Coast Guard-1953", and "File:United States yacht flag.svg" with the label "yacht". Legion566 (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'r there 04:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Navy template ouput
Use of is producing the naval jack, and not the Stars and Stripes flag. This affects thousands of articles and needs to be sorted, fast! Mjroots (talk) 12:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It was changed to be the flag of the US Navy by consensus a few years back to match the other services (discussion was on Archive 1 of this page). {{naval|United States} does use the U.S. flag though. Garuda28 (talk) 19:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * So, you're saying that every use of needs to be changed to  ? Navy in every other case produces the ensign, not the jack. There may have been consensus for the change, but the premise for the change was incorrect. Simplest fix is to revert the change. Not only does this affect articles, but every version of each article's history. Mjroots (talk) 06:57, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Umm,  does not produce the naval jack; it produces the flag of the US navy:Flag of the United States Navy (official).svgJack of the United States.svg
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I misnamed the flag produced. I'm not an expert and don't claim to be. It doesn't alter the fact that Navy should produce the correct naval ensign (🇺🇸), which it does for every other country. Mjroots (talk) 14:11, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't claim any expertise with the whole mishmash of flag templates; frankly, I find the these templates and their incestuous relationships bewildering. One would think, for example, that   would render the US naval jack; it does not, nor does   render the ensign.  And do we really need  and ?
 * This affects thousands of articles. Maybe not.  If one believes this search there are only 220-ish ship articles that use  or ; most of these appear to be used in  Operators.  And, if one believes this search there are about 580 articles that use  or  (this search result includes the infobox templates found by the narrower search).
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:01, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You're not counting all the lists of shipwrecks that use the code. There are about 1,300 of them. Mjroots (talk) 18:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that you are mistaken. Yeah, this search says that there are 1323 articles that have 'List of shipwrecks' at the beginning of their title.  Narrowing that search to look for  and  in articles with titles that begin 'List of shipwrecks' finds ~40 articles.
 * A Ctrl+F search for  in these search results (a slightly refined version of an earlier search) finds 40 articles with   in the title and that use  or .  SM UC-71, also found by the Ctrl+F search, uses  and includes the word   near enough to the template to be included in the search result snippet for that article.
 * Cirrus searches aren't perfect but in general are good enough to give a general sense of how many of a 'thing' is out there in article space. I am not inclined to distrust these results.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that you are mistaken. Yeah, this search says that there are 1323 articles that have 'List of shipwrecks' at the beginning of their title.  Narrowing that search to look for  and  in articles with titles that begin 'List of shipwrecks' finds ~40 articles.
 * A Ctrl+F search for  in these search results (a slightly refined version of an earlier search) finds 40 articles with   in the title and that use  or .  SM UC-71, also found by the Ctrl+F search, uses  and includes the word   near enough to the template to be included in the search result snippet for that article.
 * Cirrus searches aren't perfect but in general are good enough to give a general sense of how many of a 'thing' is out there in article space. I am not inclined to distrust these results.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Cirrus searches aren't perfect but in general are good enough to give a general sense of how many of a 'thing' is out there in article space. I am not inclined to distrust these results.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Proposal
Swap the outputs so that using  produces the Stars and Stripes for Navy and the US Navy flag for Naval. Mjroots (talk) 18:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose This swap would be more disruptive than helpful and, as seen in the Archive page, it appears it is more important that Navy be consistent with the other services (ex. Army produces the Army flag and Air Force produces the Air Force flag). Garuda28 (talk) 23:53, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 3 April 2023
New related template:

Template:Country data United States Merchant Marine Scu ba (talk) 22:57, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I do not see an edit request here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 11:29, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * could you add Template:Country data United States Merchant Marine to Military branch flags Scu ba (talk) 14:56, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I have added the flag to the template. Template:Country data United States/doc is not protected if you would like to make the flag display there. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:10, 6 April 2023 (UTC)