Template talk:Emergency-bot-shutoff

New Image
I have uploaded a new image and created a copy of this template on my user page. The main change I have made is a nicer button to press. The reason I haven't made the changes to the current template is because there are some downsides to using my nice image. One is that the template will take longer to load. In an emergency, the response times of an administrator would be noticably slower - especially if they used a dial-up internet connection. Also, I'm not sure how compatible this new method is with browsers other than Firefox and Internet Explorer. Please give your opinions on the usage of this template. — Jeremy | Talk 01:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the fact that the current button doesn't use an image. Ahhh... the pure simplicity and beauty of it :-). NoSeptember   talk  01:27, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Any other thoughts, anybody? — Jeremy | Talk 08:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the current version is much better and more efficent than an image would be since using an image effectively would require using a css hack to make it work which is hugely not recommended and is a bad idea. Pegasus1138 Talk 09:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Stop Tempting Me
Who's Idea was it to but a shiny red button on a page. I'm not an admin so i assume if i was tempted to click the button noting would happen, however It is really hard to resist pressing the button. Maby something less preeminent. I' mean rally I see a big read

I would suggest something like. If you are not an admin feel free to press the button because it won't do anything.

Who can resit not pressing the big red button--E-Bod 22:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Also notice that the clickable part of the button extends above and below the button so it seam very easy to accidentally click it--E-Bod 22:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Highlight the button to see the clicable area--E-Bod 22:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * N.B., even if an admin clicks it, we still have to confirm the block on the next page. — xaosflux  Talk  06:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

New symbol
Anyone mind if I change the button to this?

The symbol takes up about the whole line height, which makes it easier to fix the positioning problems, but it uses an odd Unicode character so I brought it here. æle ✆ 2006-06-07t21:27z


 * I kike this new one because the Button's Clickable aria is between the 2 lines instead over above and below--E-Bod 22:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I like it as well. I think I'll impliment it. → &ensp; J  @  red &ensp; 19:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The span trick doesn't work in all browsers... -- Ned Scott 21:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That is.. it works in mine, but it might not always work. See Template talk:Click. Personally, it's fine with me, but I know the clickable image trick doesn't always work. -- Ned Scott 21:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In IE (gah) it appears as one of those "non character recognisable" squares. I suggest a rollback to this revision. —  Fire Fox  • 15:15, 09 June '06
 * Changing it to an HTML entity doesn't work either. :( On the other hand, it does look relatively button-ish. I think it's a small price to pay for getting the button to show up in the right place in Safari. æle ✆ 2006-06-09t21:28z

It now displays a giant red box for me (IE, again)... anyone mind if I change it back? :( AmiDaniel (talk) 02:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Added parameters
I've added parameters; 1 changes "the bot" in the instructions, 2 changes the "bot" at the top. æle ✆ 2006-06-09t21:31z

heh...
I originally created this template for fun. I never knew that it was going to be so popular! :) --Ixfd64 03:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's good that some people take their boting seriously! — xaosflux  Talk  03:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Changed
I've changed the image to the last of the images in the "ASCII options" section above, • is viewable in many more browsers without special code pages loaded, and is still a circle. — xaosflux  Talk  03:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * SOCK NOTE:I was logged in under my botsock (Fluxbot) when I made that edit. — xaosflux  Talk  12:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Imaged proposal
The problem with the current version is that the link extends above the template; for example, on User:YurikBot, it covers up the Yurik link, making it unclickable (in Firefox 1.5.0.4, at least).

I don't like css hacks more than anyone else does, but this one has been in use on Template:Anarchism sidebar for a while, and I don't think anyone has complained of it not working.

... Actually, now I see Jeremy.Visser has already created a template similar to this. I suppose that works just as well.

~ Booya Bazooka 15:57, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Support. I came here because of the same problem at Yurikbot. We should switch this to Jeremy.Visser's version. — Jonathan Kovaciny (talk|contribs) 20:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Pure CSS
Experimenting around with some CSS

1st attempt:

•

IE ignores the  property

So IE supports, but only on. The comma-less arguments are non-standard. Nevertheless most other browser support it; however, I'll add  just for those that don't.

 •

 •

 Stop

Hacking this in IE is a nighmare —71.250.37.22 19:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Hack-free image
You can do this without hacks by adding a line to the site-wide CSS, like I did for audio. It would need some text, too, though, for compatibility with non-CSS browsers. — Omegatron 21:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Or simply replacing the button with a big red text link, which is as useful as the current image but without all the accessibility problems caused by the CSS hack, and even more intuitive. Omegatron's above solution is also OK to me, but please fix this template, because usage of Template:clickA or its sibling Template:click has deep implications. See WikiProject Usability/Clickable images. Best regards, --surue&ntilde;a 21:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

new version - rewrite for less confusion, border, float right
Features: -- Zondor 01:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Rewrite wording for less confusion as to whether the button is for administrators or not.
 * Non-admins just click on the plus sign to report. Maybe turn this into a button as well for non-admins. So we have two buttons.
 * Float to right - why would it need to be that so much prominent.
 * Bordered
 * I don't see a need for the bot username or the border. --TeckWiz Parlate Contribs@ 02:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the button centered better then the right-float version. — xaosflux  Talk  03:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I prefer it centered too. Also, the link should probably go to AIV (ought-of-control bots are obvious and need to be stopped fast), and should be done using ImageMap rather than a CSS hack. --ais523 10:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * editprotected. I don't see consenus to make a change. Please fee free to add another editprotected tag if consensus changes. CMummert · talk 18:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

"The Big Red Button", or "There Goes Our Credibility", by Wikipedians
So... someone, or probably a big group of regular wikipedians, seem to have come to the consensus that it would be sensible to put a big red button at the top of an article that says "bot emergency stop button". Now, I'm 100% sure it means something to you guys and that it's there for a very, very good reason. Given the way wikipedians protect their pet pages like bodyguards, I'm sure the button would be snipered quickly if it were not of vital importance. So... please try not to take this badly, but I have to tell you that for me, coming from the point of view of someone who only visits Wikipedia occasionally to check for a bit of information (or to laugh at the flame wars in the discussion pages), this is just one more thing that tarnishes the image of Wikipedia as a serious source of information. And really, if it is so important to warrant a big, red button right in the middle of an article, it should be important enough to take up with the Wikipedia developpers so that they can make it visible only to administrators. 203.97.173.115 10:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That button is not an article. It's a template, meant for use on bot talk pages only. --TeckWiz Parlate Contribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 11:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yesterday (about 12 hours ago) the button was prominently displayed at the top of the English language article on Paris, which is what prompted me to write my previous comment. 203.97.173.115 23:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That template should never have been put on that page, and has been removed. FWIW, it is only actually "pressable" by sysops. —  xaosflux  Talk  03:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For anyone who is curious or just passing by, here is a link to the big red button in Paris: -- Hdt83  Chat 04:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

New Image?
Who thinks that the image, Image:Crystal Clear action exit.svg would be better suited to being the "big button" that sysops "push" to "turn bots off", as opposed to Image:Big Red Button.png, since bots are kind of like pieces of technology that have an "off button"? I've already made the change, but I will have revert(ed) it in precisely one minute.  ~ St ep  tr ip   20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the proposed image. I agree with Steptrip. --TeckWiz Parlate Contribs@(Lets go Yankees!) 20:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I saw it on a bot userpage where, obviously, the operator had created a customized template, however, I forgot the userpage title =P  ~  St ep  tr ip   01:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks better to me as well, I've made it live. — xaosflux  Talk  03:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ugh, I don't like it. But that is just my opinion. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 14:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * This version looks much more advanced than Image:Big Red Button.png, however.  ~  St ep  tr ip   22:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it much more then the last one, but wouldn't be opposed to something else either. Maybe this color scheme on a round shapte?  Maybe a REAL button, like this one? —  xaosflux  Talk  03:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. (And ironically, I'm the author of Image:Big Red Button.png. [[Image:Face-wink.svg|24px]]) — Jeremy  05:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't let my opinion throw you off, if I don't like it I can subst it and replace the image. HighInBC(Need help? Ask me) 13:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Notwithstanding HighInBC's comment, the word "bots" invokes a connotation that is advanced (so much so to the point that it needs, and pardon me if when I sound stupid, something shiny and / or streamlined looking), although the emergency stop button that xaosflux found does, surprisingly fit the "emergency stop" criterion :-)   ~  St ep  tr ip    21:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

There is a whole technology of industrial emergency stop buttons, which is why I was surprised when we suddenly went from "STOP" to a photocopier. (Most machines will have a red stop button and an emergency stop - the emergency stop stays down when you hit it, and should not be used for normal stopping because the integrity of the latching system is safety critical.) Presumably everyone understands "Stop" so why we introduce the "binary on-off glyph" is a mystery. But it is all trivia anyway. Rich Farmbrough, 13:23, 18th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).

Clickthru
I jsut reverted changing the clickthrough link to User:Llama man/Clickthru/3. For 1, this is a double redirect to another user, for 2 there are normal Template:'s that could do this if we didn't want it to be subst'd, for 3 there has been a LONG history of problems with the click through on this image, and and someone updating other user-sapce template code would not be aware of its affects here. — xaosflux  Talk  03:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's my 3 points: (1) Good point. (2) Good point, and (3) Good point. :-) —  «  A NIMUM   »  15:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit request from RcsprinterBot, 16 January 2011
edit semi-protected

Change 'Robot' in title to 'Bot'.

RCSprinterBot 11:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * First, use your main account for normal edits. Per WP:Bot policy, a bot account may be used only for approved bot edits, trials, and certain kinds of edits in the bot's userspace. Second, a change like this should probably be discussed first. I personally don't care, although I note titlename can be used to change "robot" to whatever you like. Anomie⚔ 13:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Centering
For some reason the bottom line of this template does not appear to centre correctly. Rich Farmbrough, 13:18, 18th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).


 * It does seem to be centering correctly, once you take into account that the top line and the image are being pushed slightly to the left by the shortcut box when viewed on the Template page itself. Anomie⚔ 17:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Immediate Block
How can I make it so that it blocks the bot IMMEDIATELY instead of taking the admin to the block page and have to click on block this user?

Some admins do not have fast internet and it would be faster this way. 97.84.163.190 (talk) 01:34, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Late response, but what if the admin clicked on the button by accident? It's a lot easier to press than rollback. K6ka (talk &#124; contrib) 03:57, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

ANI notice
ANI states: Before posting a grievance about a user here, please consider discussing the issue with them on their user talk page. Should it be emphasised in this template that non-ANI approaches to a malfunctioning bot are preferred, or is such implied already? → Σ σ  ς. (Sigma) 05:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm all for that update, also I think we should refer them to WP:BOWN before WP:ANI. — xaosflux  Talk 11:33, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the intent here is "the bot needs to be blocked immediately to prevent further damage to the wiki" rather than "any complaint about how the bot works". It could probably be stated better somehow. Anomie⚔ 03:51, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with Anomie. But how could one state it better than putting it under a large "emergency shutoff button" notice? → Σ σ  ς . (Sigma) 16:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Why revert?
I chose a stop emoji (🛑) for a reason. It renders on most browsers, and coheres with the flat design. Why did you revert it? Ups and Downs 1234 01:37, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Just checked on to browsers with no extensions: not displaying on stock IE11, Chrome 57 - get a red square and the following text is obscured; in Firefox with the monobook skin - the stop sign appears, but is on top of and obscuring the text behind it. — xaosflux  Talk 02:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 June 2020
I have added a new parameter to the template, shutoff, which allows a link to task-specific shutdown options for the bot to be added to the administrator information.

Please copy the change over from this revision of the template sandbox; the specific change is the replacement of the letter "U" in front of "Use this button if"... with.

Appropriate test cases for this change, demonstrating it functioning and that it does not affect the use of the template without the new parameter, are available on the testcases page.

Please ping me once the change is in so I can update the template documentation

Thank you! Naypta ☺ &#124; ✉ talk page &#124; 16:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)