Template talk:English wine casks

Firkin?
That a "firkin of wine is the same as a puncheon" seems to be a dubious claim, especially since I was unable to verify it from a reliable source – I only found this claim on sizes.com, and nowhere else. I must therefore question the reliability of sizes.com, as they do not provide the source of that information. Pages 138-142 of Zupko's "A Dictionary of Weights and Measures for the British Isles: The Middle Ages to the Twentieth Century, Volume 168", on the other hand, contains dozens of definitions of firkin dating as far back as 1423. It shows firkins of beer, ale, soap, butter, and even eels, but only a single mention of wine. That solitary mention, from 1566, says "Nowe aboue gallon the next measure is a Fyrkin: then a Tercian, a Kilderkin.... And by those measures are sold...Ale, Bere, Wine & Oyle". There are countless other references in that same book which list all of the wine units, and both firkin and kilderkin are absent from the lists. I would propose removing any mention of firkin from this page, unless someone can come up with a reliable source. Groll &tau;ech ( talk ) 21:45, 20 October 2012 (UTC)