Template talk:Europe topic/Archive 1

Remote islands
While I appreciate the inclusion of places such as Jan Mayen and Svalbard, I am not sure it makes sense. For example, there will be never be an article about the architecture of Jan Mayen - it is a largely uninhabited possession of Norway's.--Leifern 05:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The islands are those linked to from Template:Europe. While there is unlikely to be an article on the architecture of Jan Mayen, there is for example an article on the History of Svalbard.  If there's not enough to say on a particular topic to merit an article, it should become a redirect to the article where it is covered - so, for example, architecture of Jan Mayen could redirect to Jan Mayen. Warofdreams talk 01:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually it's not that obvious that there should not eventually be an article on architecture of Jan Mayen -- there are specialized buildings there (research station; power plant), and a history of adaptive building for structures no longer in use. -- Mareklug talk  00:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Akrotiri and Dhekelia has a dead link in all but one of the above examples (Demographics), and that link simply points to the Akrotiri and Dhekelia article itself... Relevance of Foreign relations of Akrotiri and Dhekelia, anyone? (what I am trying to say is that I agree with te first poster here) Jørgen 20:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * A good point is wether or not Svalbard and Jan Mayen are dependencies or territories at all. Officially they are both integral parts of Norway just as much as other parts of Norway. They do not fall into the same category as these other listings. The History of Svalbard article is at present about half the lenght of what would be an apropriate history section in the article Svalbard so it should be merged into that article pending the eventuality that someone will write a lot more. If someone should feel the urge to write about Jan Mayen architecture they should in any case start on the Jan Mayen page and only create a separate article if that section becomes too long. Most of these topics will never be any more than a redirect or a statement that the topic is the same as in the rest of Norway and dealt with in the Norway article. But the bottom line remains: These two are not dependencies, territories, non-self-governing entities or any other such category.Inge 12:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Jan Mayen is part of NordlandCounty. Inge 12:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Link in title
I think it is not a good idea that this template links its title automatically. At the point of transclusion, it would be easy to provide the second parameter with the enclosing square brackets, whereas the current version creates redlinks to articles that don't exist, and probably never will (like Coats of arms of Europe, List of airports in Europe, Security issues in Europe, etc.) KissL (don't forget to vote!) 12:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Not sure why the second two wouldn't exist, but I've found that in the large majority of cases, the automatic linking is exactly what is desired. In the few cases where it isn't, the second parameter allows the title to easily be replaced. Warofdreams talk 03:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Variant
I've created a variant Europe in topic2 for Buddhism in Europe that doesn't include the Vatican or dependencies and territories. Addhoc 14:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why not just redirect Buddhism in the Vatican City to Vatican City, which will explain the religious situation to anyone not already familiar with it? Similar redirects could be made to the national article or to Religion in... for the other dependencies and territories, should they not merit an article. Warofdreams talk 04:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge proposal
I've proposed merging Template:Europe in topic2 in. Having two templates doing the same job makes them more difficult to maintain. Should someone find it essential to omit the microstates from a this template in a particular use, we could look at having an argument which does that. Warofdreams talk 20:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Have amended Europe topic to:
 * omit Vatican City if "Topic in/of Vatican City" doesn't exist;
 * omit the dependencies etc if the parameter countries_only instantiated.
 * Currently Islam in Spain the only article using the latter. If these amendments okay, perhaps they remove the need for Europe in topic2 and Europe in topic3 and any other forks...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 00:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Hadn't even seen Europe in topic3. Great work on the template! Warofdreams talk 04:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Have now added the countries_only option to the other continent-topic templates that include territories and mentioned this facility here. Yours, David (talk) 01:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Template name
Per here, would anyone object to this template being renamed Europe topic, thereby leaving the of/in specified by its parameter (e.g., , etc)...? Regards, David Kernow (talk) 02:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Nationalist Vandalism
Please keep an eye for insertions of the unrecognized turkish invased region of cyprus. It's ilegal according to international lawand completely unrecognized. Turkish nationalist extremists keep inserting it.