Template talk:Genocide of Indigenous peoples

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Are Crimean Tatars really "indigenous" to Crimea? They arrived in the 10th-15th centuries. Sheila1988 (talk) 12:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Crimean Tatars ARE indigenous to Crimea by the UN definition. Their ethnogenesis occured in Crimea, they were once a majority their (now they are not), and DNA tests show that they are not all from Golden Horde (but rather an ethnic group formed out of many different peoples over time who assimilated with each other). They bear the DNA of the first inhabitants of Crimea, and they have pre-Russian roots that stretch far back to before the Greeks. They did not "arrive" in Crimea from elsewhere, they EMERGED from Crimea. Without Crimea there would be no Crimean Tatar nation.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:07, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

The Crimean Tatars are indeed are not "indigenous people" of Crimea and they arrived to Crimea only after it was colonized by the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Byzantine Empire, the Crimean Goths, the Genoese and the Ottoman Empire, while at the same time its interior was occupied by a changing cast of invading steppe nomads and empires, such as the Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Goths, Alans, Bulgars, Huns, Khazars, Kipchaks, Mongols and the Golden Horde. Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate during the 15th to 18th century. Crimean Tatars are responsible for almost 300 years of attacks, murder, pillage, rape and slavery of the Rus people of the southern and central parts of Kievan Rus and Russian Empire. Unlike the the indigenous people of North America they were not mass murdered but were forcefully deported just like Japanese Americans during the WW2 in the USA. Therefore the inclusion of the Crimean Tatars in the list of "Genocide of Indigenous peoples" is nothing but a Russia-hating lie and propaganda by the CIA and its US Army Psychological warfare specialists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:A45F:F017:C8D6:CD0E:5C37:F19B (talk) 17:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * "Arrived only after", etc. This is all WP:OR. Sources please. They are listed as Indigenous peoples in the Encyclopedia of Indigenous Peoples . My very best wishes (talk) 04:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Indigenous or not, describing the Deportation of the Crimean Tatars as a "documented instance" of genocide in Wikipedia voice in a template without context contradicts the content of the main article. See Deportation of the Crimean Tatars. --MarioGom (talk) 01:55, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposing sections for "Documented Instances"
I propose we split up "Documented Instances" into sections ... either chronological sections or geographical regions