Template talk:Image requested/Archive 2

edit request -- someone please fix the bug
Something is broken here.

results in: [[:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of History

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I found this error on an article talk page. It should not be splitting the category brackets apart with a newline inbetween.

-- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Looking through your contributions I found your problem case at Talk:Bilbao (Mesoamerican site).


 * The template's an unholy mix of named parameters and positional parameters. For the category parameter to be recognised it needs to be first parameter or numbered to pretend it is.


 * Additionally, the category Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of History doesn't exist. Bazj (talk) 11:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That doesn't actually fix the problem, because as illustrated here on this talk page, if you use an unnamed parameter, it still does it.


 * It happens regardless of how you capitalize "history" -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 04:57, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It is not true that the explicit numbering is necessary for the parameter to even work: "History" in  is counted as the first unnamed parameter as expected. Adding the , like in Bazj's second code block, does solve the problem with the newline, because leading and trailing whitespace is preserved for unnamed parameters and stripped for named ones in all template calls. The template itself could be quite easily changed to strip whitespace from unnamed parameters as well, though. SiBr4  (talk ) 17:43, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Requested edit
I would like to add this sentence (in regular-sized font), as I've done on diagram requested: ""Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.""

I've recently created a number of specific sub-templates for diagrams, and it would be helpful to encourage taggers to use the most specific tag they can. —Swpbtalk 14:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea, but there isn't much explanation and no introduction to the topic. It would be nice if you could write a help page or something and then transclude this template as part of that. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've added an introductory sentence to media request templates. I'm not sure what more explanation is needed; it seems pretty self-explanatory. What else are you looking for? —Swpbtalk 17:51, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a suggestion. I don't think it's a particularly good idea to link to a template like this. Anyway ✅ &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

After reading this request, I took the liberty of including the explanatory text with Media request templates when it is transcluded to the See also sections of the appropriate /doc subpages, and I added a little to possibly make it more clear for our less experienced editors. Feel free to improve it or revert it as needed. Be prosperous! Paine 12:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! —Swpbtalk 16:07, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Pleasure! Paine

Requested edit
This template is used to request non-photographic images as well as photos, but in key places it indicates photos only, and incorrectly categorizes requests as such. For requests specifically for photos, photo requested may be used. Requested edits to this template: —Swpbtalk 15:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 19:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC) PAGE ]]) 20:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Change "It is requested that a freely-licensed photograph" to "It is requested that a freely-licensed image or photograph"
 * 2) Change all categories,  and  to read "requested images"
 * I mocked up the changes in the sandbox. Do all the "requested images of" and "articles needing images" categories exist? --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK
 * No; right now the "requested photographs" categories contain a mix of requests for photos and non-photo images. I will seek consensus to rename those categories; the emptied "requested photos" categories can then be used strictly for photos, using photo requested. For now, can you implement the first request above? —Swpbtalk 19:35, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Ahecht ([[User_talk:Ahecht|'''TALK

Follow-up
Per above, categories have been created/moved (following two weeks proposed here without objection). Please change in the template: (Do not change )
 * to
 * All to

Thanks! — s w p b T 02:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Primefac (talk) 05:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! — s w p b T 00:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Coordinates as parameter?
Follow up to what User:WhisperToMe mentioned above: In de.wp there is de:Template:Bilderwunsch and it's small brother de:Template:Bilderwunsch/Listeneintrag which both can be used with and without coordinates. The use of coordinates takes the researching responsibility away from the photographer and puts it to the person requesting the pictures. With that it is a lot easier for the photographer to actually take the pictures, because he knows where to go. With the coordinates and with FNDE's tool bwAPI one can display this map of picture requests which can also be exported in some formats for GPS devices.

I personally perceive this infrastructure as the future of picture requests and I'm quite keen on including picture requests from en.wp into it. For that at least two coordinate parameters are needed, maybe also one that allows to use the coordinates of the article. Of course also FNDE's tool has to be translated, but that should be doable maybe even with translatewiki. How do you feel about all of this, dear en.wp colleagues? --Flominator (talk) 17:33, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that I would like to see these in articles. Many readers do not check the talk pages! WhisperToMe (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * This is an excellent idea. I'd be willing to help implement if needed. — swpb T go beyond 14:18, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your support. It looks like User:FNDE is quite busy at the moment, which means that the implementation in bwAPI might take some time. If he lets me, I'm also willing to help with coding. But how do we go on here? Will we create a new template with coordinates and migrate existing template usages to that one? Or would it be smarter to add the coordinate parameters here and maybe another one to indicate if a request needs coordinates or not? --Flominator (talk) 12:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * We should definitely add parameters to this template rather than creating a new one and migrating. Because of the widespread use, we'll have to do very thorough sandbox testing before we request edits to the actual template. — swpb T go beyond 15:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Definitely want a map on my phone of requested photos nearby. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

What is the point of free=yes?
All non-free images should be replaced with a free equivalent if one is available. If it's a good idea to take up valuable talk page banner space with a block of text reminding people of that (and I don't), that would be better handled by a different template. Otherwise, what is the purpose? There are perhaps the hypothetical scenario of a subject for which a free alternative should be available, but so far in going through several hundred of these templates so far, I'm yet to see an instance of free=yes that has made sense to me. I say get rid of it. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 03:46, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * That block is there for articles where there is a non-free image present. Without it, someone may see "This article needs an image" and say "It already has an image", and maybe even remove the template. Some editors may also consider the complete absence of an image to be a more pressing concern than the need to replace a non-free one (or vice versa), and may want to sort requests that way. If the parameter isn't being used properly, that should be addressed, maybe in the doc, and maybe by rewording what it produces. But its intended purpose makes sense to me. — swpb T&#8201;•&#8201;go beyond&#8201;•&#8201;bad idea 16:37, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Inline version
I have just created an inline version of this template, Image requested inline. I would be grateful if colleagues could check it before I make it more widely known. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:39, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Great idea! Can we include a parameter for the image request category? — swpb T&#8201;•&#8201;go beyond&#8201;•&#8201;bad idea 13:40, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * --BoldLuis (talk) 17:45, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

714x714 is the size of the image i have KYV123 (talk) 12:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Broken link in template
This template includes a link to the "Free Image Search Tool", but unfortunately it leads to error "502 Bad Gateway". Eepavan (talk) 13:45, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The link to the "Free Image Search Tool" is still broken. I edited the sandbox to remove that string of text. (It might be better to replace it with a new image search tool, but I don't know of any.) I'm not sure who I should ping to actually get the change implemented in the live template. I'll look into it more. TJScalzo (talk) 13:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I could find these:
 * https://www.everypixel.com/free (CC0 only)
 * https://ccsearch.creativecommons.org/ (opt-In for commercial use and derivations allowed necessary)
 * --ThT (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I was able to access the tool after modifying the URL: this template uses https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/fist.php, which redirects to https://fist.toolforge.org/fist.php, which returns 404, but the tool appears to work just fine at https://fist.toolforge.org/fist/fist.php. Personally, I haven't seen a 502 yet, but that was more than a year ago after all. I'll try replacing the link in the sandbox and submit an edit request if it works. --Rummskartoffel (talk) 10:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 June 2020
Please update Template:Image requested to match my edit to its sandbox. This fixes the link to Free Image Search Tool at the bottom of this template, which currently (see also my comment just above) redirects to a 404, by using a direct link instead of the broken interwiki link. This bugfix doesn't otherwise change the behaviour of the template, therefore I consider this change uncontroversial. --Rummskartoffel (talk) 12:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 3 January 2021
Please update Template:Image requested to replace the dysfunctional toolforge link at the bottom with https://search.creativecommons.org/ Maybe there should also be a mention of Wikimedia Commons, which doesn't really have useful/usable image search functionality, alongside Flickr. --Prototyperspective (talk) 19:03, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I just tried it and the link seems to be working now? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Sorry, it was a problem on my side. It's working now. (Maybe it didn't work because I made a change on my side when it didn't work before June.)
 * However, it's not showing any search results / images for many search terms and I don't find it very useful as is, especially when compared to that other site I linked above.
 * Instead of replacing it, could you please add that link next to it? if the  parameter is filled you could link to   Prototyperspective (talk) 21:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. I've put some code on the sandbox, and tests on Template:Image requested/testcases. Please tinker as needed. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Link to creativecommons search tool added from sandbox. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:05, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. I've put some code on the sandbox, and tests on Template:Image requested/testcases. Please tinker as needed. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:02, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Link to creativecommons search tool added from sandbox. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:05, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you two! Looks good. I'd add Wikimedia Commons to the template once it has become as useful for finding freely licensed images (not files on WMCommons in general but images (or maybe even "images, animations or videos"...) . I'll also add a link to Public domain image resources. --Prototyperspective (talk) 16:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 February 2021
I request that Template:Image requested be updated to match my edit to the sandbox. This will change the text for the link to Creative Commons Search at the bottom of the template, which currently simply says creativecommons. This change makes it more clear where the link will bring the reader and matches the style of the other link in the sentence. This improves clarity and doesn't modify the actual behavior of the template, so I believe it to be an uncontroversial change. TJScalzo (talk) 10:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Izno (talk) 04:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Commons
It would be a great step forward that these image requests could be also transcluded to Commons, because it is specialized in free media. In Commons, would appear where the request comes from (i.e. English Wikipedia, XXX article).--BoldLuis (talk) 17:30, 26 April 2020 (UTC)