Template talk:Infobox Paris street

Use of the Paris streetbox
Okay, I'm going to try to slim this infobox down to 250px wide. Will take a bit... T HE P ROMENADER 23:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The use of an infobox is optional. Wikipedia likes everything to be consistent, so making an infobox that is not 300px wide might be frowned upon. I would like a derivative for addresses in Paris as I believe it will help people find what they are looking for. --JHvW (talk)   08:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Rendering on Firefox
Great work - the template looks superb. However, it doesn't seem to render properly on Firefox - the whole Arrondissement line and the top of Quarter section are covered by the image. I think this will need to be sorted before widespread inclusion. - Gobeirne 09:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm just trying to deal with this now - it has to do with a new version of the map I uploaded. The 'old' image has taken on the proportions of the 'new' one - but we still can't see the new version! I'll test and fix until it works. Trust me it's not a browser problem : )   T HE P ROMENADER  09:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * PS: It seems that wiki is having some server problem - more than likely something to do with the 'slave' image server. Any page contining images is slow to load (or doesn't at all) - will confirm this on #Wiki.  T HE P ROMENADER  09:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Mille pardons - it was in part a browser-based problem. I had put a temporary height on the map div during my 2am 'thinning' last night - and forgot to take it off when I was through. Firefox respects div heights no matter what's in them; most other browsers don't. The 'smooshed' map, on the other hand, was indeed a Wiki cache problem - that still isn't fixed! So I uploaded an entirely new plan - because of the thinner infobox, cut of its bois de Boulogne and bois de Vincennes - in a 'greener' shade that perhaps is more discreet than the 'yellowish' version. If you liked the old better, I can re-colour it that way - but in its present proportions, otherwise the arrondissement borders/text is too small. Just leave word here.  T HE P ROMENADER  11:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

links in the Caption
For the moment there is no feasable way to change a link's colour - at least not on a wide scale. The only way of doing this is for a user to add a new class to his monobook.css - but we can't very well ask every Wiki user to do this. So either we're going to have to change the caption background colour, or just not put links in the caption text. Speaking for me I'm still looking for a solution that can remain 'esthetically correct' with the rest - if anyone has any ideas, do give them a go. T HE P ROMENADER 12:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You could wrap the name of the street in simple code:  --Bob 16:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Gaaaaah! The evil w3-depreciated "font" tag. Tried it with the and  tags instead - didn't work. I must experiment. Thanks for the pointer. THE PROMENADER   16:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * (cough cough cough) Eureka! Paris  THE PROMENADER   16:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Er, no. Close, though. Add any character or punctuation at all around a set of link brackets and the link will no longer remain the color indicated by the tag surrounding the whole. " Paree " yes, " dd Paree  bb ", no. Dommage. THE PROMENADER   17:39, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to play with it? --Bob 18:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Please do. THE PROMENADER  19:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Do we want the background in deep blue and all writing in white? --Bob 20:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes sir. By the way, I made a short addition to our favourite 'discussion page' that I hope sums up the situation up nicely. Please have a look. THE PROMENADER  20:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Each needs to be hardcoded into the individual pages, either that or we introduce numerous optional parameters. --Bob 20:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You wouldn't be thinking about "pre-formatting" Wiki code with optional parameters? It all depends on what's processed first. I would believe that the template parameters get processed before the wikicode... a form of pre-substitution. hmmmm. THE PROMENADER  20:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I will attack it now, but I would like to know whether we can move XVIe arrondissement etc to XVIe arrondissement of Paris as articles on Lyon or Marseille may be created in the future and would prevent headaches later on. --Bob 22:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've played with it: Place de l'Étoile What do you think about removing the Arrt. at the very top of the box and bold that part as well. I know that it goes against the format desired for the place sign, but in some instances there are too many arr. --Bob 23:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Well thought for Lyon arrondissements - and any other arrondissement in any other city/country for that matter. I'd just take note of the right form to use - for streets I used a comma (rue Mouffetard, Paris) but I'm sure the "of" would do just fine. Frankly I see the comma having more of a future here - but that's neither here nor there for now. Screw my indecision - as you like, up to you. THE PROMENADER  00:49, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the "Arrrrrr"'s are ok - there are not so many streets in Paris that cross more than four arrondissements. I'm sure it is possible to make the "arr" an option - how about that? Would be a pity to chop it entirely because of only a few streets. Too bad it's not possible to set up test conditions ( if ($arr > 4) { $disp_arr=''; } )... or can you? I find it frustrating to even look at Wiki code; it's so limited. THE PROMENADER  00:49, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Generator
Please let me know what/what when you are done updating the code - I will have a look as well - perhaps judging from the data available in my street database, I can determine what optional fields could be added. That done, I'd like also to update the "Wiki generator" available as an option there with the finished code. Did you know that I intended to develop this project in tandem with my website (as an 'information exchage)? I've been neglecting both because of my work - webmastering does not give much occasion to wander. THE PROMENADER  08:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * DONE. --Bob 20:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Done? THE PROMENADER  21:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Finished. I have finished playing with the code here, I have just fininshed another template: PIRA2006squad --Bob 21:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you sir. Wow that title bar is... bright... it's... hurting my eyes. Ô the colours, the colours... THE PROMENADER  22:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

More what?
Hi Bob, I saw your "want more" comment - want more what? I'm sure there's lots of Paris street articles the template could be added to. I'll have a look, and I should be creating more - I actually have a few street articles that I've developed for my site, but I have yet to move them to Wiki. I'll have much more time once the bicker-fest ends. Cheers. THE PROMENADER  19:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I was meaning more space in the right hand column. For a while it bunched everything over once I introduced the optional quartier linking parameter. All linked articles have now been updated, and I am finished. On the issue of naming the arr. I would think that X arr., Paris would be best. If the pages are moved, and I think it's the best idea, then the links in this template have to be rewritten to accomodate the move as well. --Bob 20:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, this best be done before. You know though that a redirect will still link things through - as long as there is no double-redirect. THE PROMENADER  21:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, until the redirect becomes the dab page for other articles. --Bob 21:34, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Praise
These look incredible ! Congratulations ! FiP Как вы думаете? 14:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree! --212.247.27.189 (talk) 21:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

How can I use it on my web site?
I want to use this on my web site. How should I write the copyright stuff? --212.247.27.176 (talk) 20:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * First read "FAQ/Copyright". For information on citing Wikipedia articles, or parts thereof, see WP:CITEWIKI. Cheers - Gobeirne (talk) 21:42, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Far too showy
As pretty as this infobox is, I don't think it meshes well with Wikipedia's style. It's far too showy, and should be replaced with a more traditional-looking infobox. TheCoffee (talk) 06:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This template should be redesigned to use infobox, or as a wrapper for infobox street.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. Can we get this changed? wctaiwan (talk) 08:17, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just merge it into infobox street, have an option to wrap the infobox with the streetsign, and change the colors (such as "|fancy=yes") -- 70.24.250.110 (talk) 20:12, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Great work
I translated and adjusted this template for Belgrade streets, here. --93.86.154.150 (talk) 10:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Infobox for street adresses
I have experimented with the infobox and I think it is a wonderfull addition.

Would it be possible to adapt it for landmarks in Paris in general? I have used it as a marker for the address of the Chapelle expiatoire and it has some shortcomings. As I do not want to seem to steal anybody's idea I would appreciate some help.

Also it is much more colourfull than the boring "infobox museum". --<b style="color:red;">JHvW</b> (talk)   22:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Abbreviation for Arrondissement
I had thought the abbreviation for Arrondissement to be simply 'Arr.' and was surprised to see 'Arrt.' on this template (while looking at the article for Place Vendôme). So I did a bit of searching and found a number of photos online which show that 'Arrt.' is almost correct, except it is like so: Arrt, with the 't' superscript and underlined, and no period at the end. So I have decided to be bold and edit the template to match. &mdash;DavidConrad (talk) 11:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Crosses/junctions with
Would there be value in adding the (significant) junctions of a street to this infobox, in addition to the start and end points? An example would be the relationship between Boulevard Saint-Michel, and Rue Monsieur-le-Prince. One end of Rue Monsieur-le-Prince is at Bd Saint-Michel, but at present, the relationship would only go one-way. PRB (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

In the French Wiki
In the French Wiki, some people don’t like this kind of template... look at w:fr:Discussion Projet:Île-de-France. Waltor (talk) 19:08, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Template merger?
Infobox street could easily be merged with this one by adding necessary parameters to handle the arrondissement and quarters of the city. After the appropriate additions are made, this template could then be converted into a wrapper, generating the map and such and using infobox street to generate the overall display. The benefit would be that articles on streets globally would have consistent infoboxes. Thoughts?  Imzadi 1979  →   19:53, 19 December 2013 (UTC)