Template talk:Infobox pageant titleholder/Archive 1

Ethnicity
For "ethnicity", some articles that use this template enter a race (for ex., Kerry Anne Wells, Oxana Fedorova), while others enter "Hispanic" or "Latin/American" (María Julia Mantilla), and others enter a nationality ("Indian" for Sushmita Sen). It's inconsistent at best, a clear violation of WP:No original research almost certainly. So I removed the field. SamEV (talk) 21:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

One of these things is not like the other...
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????? - Running On Brains (talk) 14:02, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Some people really get turned on by that sort of thing, you know. — RockMFR 22:01, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Parameter removal
Today I removed
 * imdb
 * iafdb
 * afdb name
 * eurobabeindex

All latest changes in other infoboxes are in this direction, to move external links to third-party sites away from infoboxes. In all cases there were unused anyway. In any case, external links must be in their own section and not in infoboxes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Request for Nationality field
Can someone add a "Nationality" field to this infobox? Seems to me that is one of the facts people look at the most when watching or reporting on beauty pageant events. Thanks. Mercy11 (talk) 18:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Parameters
Why doesn't this template support any of the following parameters:
 * 1) term = September 14, 2014 - present
 * 2) predecessor = Nina Davuluri
 * 3) successor =
 * People have swapped out templates on some pageant winner biographies with Infobox person to solve this problem.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * sounds like a good solution. Frietjes (talk) 17:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

RfC on Template:Infobox person
This message is to notify you that there is an RfC ongoing on whether to add pronunciation info to, a discussion which may also affect this template. Your comments on the matter are appreciated. The discussion can be found here. Thanks! 0x0077BE ( talk ·  contrib ) 17:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

use of Major Competion(s) field for upcoming pageants
Should future events that pageant winners are scheduled to participate in be included in the Major Competion(s) field?

On most of the articles for current US State beauty pageant title holders the Major competition(s) field has been used to list Miss USA 2015, which won't take place for another 6 months. See Madison Guthrie, Miss Alabama USA 2015; Kimberly Agron, Miss Alaska USA 2015; Maureen Montagne, Miss Arizona USA 2015; Leah Blefko, Miss Arkansas USA 2015; etc. It seems to me that the Major Competion(s) field should not list future events since the named participant might not actually participate (death, illness, personal choice, disqualification, etc.). Meters (talk) 18:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, they should be there, as 99.99% of the time, a person who is named to a US state-level title will go on to compete in the national pageant. In the very rare cases where they don't go on for some reason, it can always be removed later. Ejgreen77 (talk) 19:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't object to the articles stating that, as the current state title holder, the person in question is scheduled (entitled/qualified/whatever) to be the state's representative in the next national pageant, but isn't that infobox field intended for pageants the person has already participated in? Meters (talk) 20:57, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Skin color?
Do we really need this? There are such a wide range of skin colors that one word may not be enough, plus there is the issue that the color in a photograph may not be accurate. Should we require a citation to a reliable source? --Dalek Supreme X (talk) 18:39, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * For the record, I would have no problem removing it. Perhaps something like "ethnicity" could be used instead. It would get the same basic point across without being so, um, weird. Ejgreen77 (talk) 23:05, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Does anyone object to removing this? I would prefer to avoid "ethnicity" because that opens up a bunch of new problems. --Dalek Supreme X (talk) 05:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No objections, so I went ahead and made the change. --Dalek Supreme X (talk) 17:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Native_name parameter?
Hi there. I don't see a whole lot of recent activity at this template, but I'll give my request a shot: I think there should be a parameter for native_name similar to what is found at Template:Infobox person. WP:NOINDICSCRIPT prevents the inclusion of Indic scripts in an article's lead, yet there are numerous Indian pageant titleholders who would reasonably have native names, and we should facilitate their inclusion. For instance here an editor felt that Priyadarshini Chatterjee should have her Assamese name included. Seems reasonable, but the infobox doesn't permit it. Not sure what the best format for this would be. I know that Template:Infobox person and Template:Infobox musical artist tend to use both native_name and native_lang for name and language respectively, but it's probably easier if the parameter allows for the use of প্ৰিয়দৰ্শনী চেটাৰ্জী, which would render as প্ৰিয়দৰ্শনী চেটাৰ্জী in the infobox. Is this something we could implement?

Incidentally, I'm not quite sure why the other templates use native_lang -- it doesn't render the name of the language on the page, which seems like a wasted opportunity to communicate information to the reader. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:04, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Religion
The maintainers of this template forgot to add a 'religion' template. It should be added. -Mr. Guye (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Wrapper
This template should be converted to a wrapper of Infobox person, as there are only a few additional params. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])  03:01, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

needs nocat_wdimage=yes parameter
For cases where this is a second infobox and a second photo is unnecessary, the nocat_wdimage=yes parameter is needed to remove the article from Category:No local image but image on Wikidata. MB 01:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * added. Frietjes (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2017 (UTC)