Template talk:Npa2

Usage

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Too lenient
The original version was too lenient. If you have ever experienced being attacked and abused verbally, you would appreciate that this official policy is there to protect editors and the community and to foster an environment that is conducive to editing. &asymp; jossi &asymp; t &bull; @ 17:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Although this is not the place to discuss the policy, I agree. This template should be attached with an automatic 24 hour block. Personal attacks make more harm than 3RR violations, and are always intentional unlike the latter. - Eagletalk 00:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Why do we need these templates?
If people are making personal attacks shouldn't we teach by example and actually talk to them rather than slapping on a template? I cannot see the logic behind having a template for this. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 16:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * We need this warning, as people that make personal attacks on an ongoing basis, can be eventually blocked for disruption. Without a warning, it is unfair to block them. ≈ jossi ≈ t &bull; @ 17:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * But my point is - why do we need a teplate to warn them. People are not blocked for personal attacks lightly. If it's seriois enough to warrent a block, then surely it's serious enough to actually talk to them first? Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 19:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I came here to make the same point. In my experience this template is often used to harass other editors, as actual personal attacks usually get a personal response. I understand that users need to be warned before they are blocked, but they don't have to be warned by a generic template do they? I think these templates should go. -- N  scheffey (T/C) 04:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Proposed move
Per footnote on Template:TestTemplates, templates should be renamed to match the level of warnings. Likewise, Npa, which redirects here, should be renamed to Npa2, displacing that template, which will move to Npa3. Npa3 will be moved to Npa4. In a related note, Npa-n will be changed to Npa2-n. Any objections? — Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 01:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) — Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 02:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Sounds sensible, but a bot would have to subst all the non-subst npa2 templates out there first.  It might be better to choose another name than npa for the correctly numbered templates.  It's a pain but I don't see a good alternative. &mdash; ciphergoth 07:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, my personal summer project is to subst all the unsubst templates in the Template:TestTemplates chart (yes, I have way too much time on my hands). Suprisingly, there aren't many that need to be substed for this template. A rough count put the amount of substing to do at 81. It's not that bad, in fact. I could personally do these before the move. Does that change your opinion? — Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 22:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Comments
Move has been completed – Gurch 18:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)