Template talk:PD-Austria

Lichtbild and Lichtbildwerk
No! This is utterly wrong. We had that problem with the German copyright law already. German and Austrian copyright law ("Urheberrechtsgesetz") makes a distinction between "Lichtbild" and "Lichtbildwerk". A "Lichtbildwerk" ia a work, and as such subject to the usual 70 years p.m.a. copyright term. Any photograph that shows even the slightest creativity is in general considered a "Lichtbildwerk". (See this case: Eurobike: OGH, Beschluss vom 12.9.2001, 4 Ob 179/01d.) A "Lichtbild" must be really simple - a frontal portrait photograph (head shot, passport photo) falls into this category. A "Lichtbild" is protected for 50 years after creation, or, if published within that term, for 50 years after the first publication. See §74(6) of the Austrian copyright law. See also. Lupo 08:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * At the very least, 3 of the current 6 photographs meet even the most stringent of your criteria to be included, no? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 08:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Of the six images in the related category Category:Austrian public domain photographs, only one would clearly qualify as a "Lichtbild". None of these images are in the public domain in Austria!
 * Image:1heldeplatz.jpg clearly a "Lichtbildwerk". Now "fair use".
 * Image:WilhelmMiklas.jpg clearly a "Lichtbildwerk". No source A movie still. Now "fair use".
 * Image:WilhelmMiklasPic.jpg clearly a "Lichtbildwerk" No source Now "fair use".
 * Image:Karl-renner.jpg not a head shot, lighting & positioning make this a "Lichtbildwerk". (Now "fair use".)
 * Image:1ajansa.jpg not a head shot; studio portrait. I'm torn on this one, but given the very low creativity threshold ("it suffices that another photographer would have shot a different image"), I would say this is a "Lichtbildwerk", too. (Now "fair use".)
 * Image:Franz Jonas.jpg yes, that's a "Lichtbild": passport-style photograph. However, from 1965 to 1974 and thus copyrighted until at least 2015. Also, it has no source. Now "fair use".
 * Lupo 09:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Also note that the protection for a "Lichtbild" is fifty years, not thirty. Lupo 09:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest removing this template from all six images and redirecting it to PD-old-70, or rewording it similar to PD-Germany (where we went through all these issues already, see the talk). Lupo 09:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I've reworded it, following PD-Germany. Lupo 13:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * All images listed above are now sourced and tagged as Non-free fair use in for the appropriate articles. Lupo 13:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I fully agree with Lupo --Historiograf 00:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)