Template talk:River Avon Bristol map

River Frome
It looks as if there has been lots of improvement to this template but I wonder if there is any way to differentiate the two River Frome links - as this could the impression it is the same river when one is River Frome, Bristol and the other River Frome, Somerset?&mdash; Rod talk 20:44, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. (Although it may be necessary to disambiguate the Bristol and Somerset links.) Useddenim (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that, I find using the BS templates hard work! St Augustine's Reach is navigable (a branch of the harbour), but the Frome (Bristol) is not - my rather indelicate used of two shades of blue on that branch was an attempt to poorly show that. Do you think we should bother with this detail? (NB the Bristol and Bath Railway Path crosses the Avon 4 times, and on the west-most crossing it is alongside the Avon Valley Railway just by Avon Riverside railway station ... ) Rwendland (talk) 22:50, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Reworked the New Cut to clearly show St. Augustine's Reach and R. Frome (and also included the missing icon for Bristol Temple Meads). No problem adding the other B&BRP crossings, if you tell me where they go. Also, what is the general orientation of the river? i.e. where would North be on the diagram? Useddenim (talk) 00:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The Avon flows (very roughly) south and then west, so the right hand side of the template is west from Malmesbury to Bradford on Avon then north from Bradford to Avonmouth.&mdash; Rod talk 06:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * So, this diagram breaks both the ‘North at top‘ and ‘flows from top to bottom’ conventions. I’m tempted to rotate it 180°, but that would be a fair bit of work. (May be next weekend…) Useddenim (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know there was a ‘flows from top to bottom’ convention. See for example Template:River Parrett map which also has source at the bottom and mouth at the top.&mdash; Rod talk 17:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It wasn't articulated in so few words, but I remember reading something to that effect in Scientific American years ago, in an article about Northern-hemispehre-centric mapping. Useddenim (talk) 01:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Avon Riverside railway station
The Avon Valley Railway crosses bridge 211 alongside the Bristol and Bath Railway Path, terminating almost immediately at Avon Riverside railway station to the south (left on diag) side of the bridge. I cannot see a way of representing this, so if anyone has an idea of how to do this, please have a go. Rwendland (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Bristol TM
Bristol TM is actually between the New Cut and the Avon (harbour), not to the north. But there is not the space to represent this at the mo. The whole of Bristol needs work, as many A roads crossing in Bristol are missed out. Maybe in a revamp we could create a bigger gap between the New Cut and river, to resolve both problems, when someone has time and energy.

Bristol TM platforms, at the west end, actually are above the New Cut, so as a kludge I have overlayed the station over the New Cut on the diagram, as a closer representation of its real position. A bit ugly though. Revert if you think this is worse. Rwendland (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * That's great (using lv-BHF), you are a star Useddenim! Rwendland (talk) 10:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)