Template talk:Sandbox heading/Archive 3

Update instructions
If you have any questions regarding the bot's method of updating the template, fire me an email. Thanks. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

How do you change the shortcut box?
On the sandbox page, it has only one shortcut, to WP:SB. How do you put the other one, WP:SAND on? Jfing e  r s  88  16:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Done.— G . H e  03:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

New Reset
Right... Well, anyway, the reset script seems to be broken, so I've now created an alternative... If anyone has any better alternatives, feel free to incorporate it.— G . H e  03:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't have any better ideas, though I've changed the autosummary slightly since many users who use this won't be using popups so there's no need to advertise popups in the autosummary. Pegasus1138 Talk 18:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Wha?
Why can't this be named something simple like or something? &mdash; Ilyan  e  p  (Talk)  02:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I think it's because people wanted to have the "Please leave this line alone" part to tell testers to leave the transclusion line alone, even though half the time they don't care...— G . H e  02:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe we could make it so Template:Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading) redirects to Template:Sandboxhead, then we could put in the sandbox page, but it will actually be showing Template:Sandboxhead.  See More: Template namespace  -- GeorgeMoney T&middot;C 02:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:sandbox redirects here.— G . H e  20:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

More Discussion

 * The sandbox is really one of those situations where having section only protection would be helpful so that the notice could stay there all the time and be protected but the rest of the page would be editable but I doubt that's ever going to happen. Pegasus1138 Talk 22:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, now I've blanked the page so that it will ONLY appear on Sandbox... Maybe it will discourage people from changing the header?— G . H e  23:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, at least we still know that you just used tags and that you didn't really blank it. But, what would be really good is if we used #REDIRECT Sandbox, then it will automatically redirect the page to the sandbox, but not the template, but the noinclude tags will mess up the redirect, so we can't do that. -- GeorgeMoney T&middot;C 23:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hopefully, I've made a clearer message now (see template page). :P— G . H e  23:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I made it even better... Try to scroll down, and the message will follow you. -- GeorgeMoney T&middot;C 23:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Good one! Now people can't ignore even if they want to.— G . H e  23:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * If you look at my userpage history, you will see that I "protected" it by putting hidden message tags on the text that people thought they were editing, but my real userpage was transcluded there from one of my sub-pages, so any changes they made wouldn't show up, because they were editing a hidden message. Do you think we should do that here? -- GeorgeMoney T&middot;C 00:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Or maybe we should put User:GeorgeMoney/tricktemplates/deleted on the page. -- GeorgeMoney T&middot;C 01:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * LoL. But someone will try to remake it. :P— G . H e  01:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The sandbox reset function for the template has been restored as well as the Sandbot's operation. If you have any further problems, please contact AllyUnion for service. Thank you, have a great day! --AllyUnion (talk) 08:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Interwiki links
Are they really necessary? They make the page well over twice as long as the heading and any content themselves. --Rory096 22:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Image
Wouldn't the sandbox look much better if it had an image? I think sandboxes or sand sculptures would be great. TZMT (de:T) 11:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Recent changes
The recent changes to this template have made the sandbox look like this (at least in IE). I doubt this is what was wanted, especially with the pair of |} visible. I was fine with the previous version, which I had reverted it to, but Sandbot changed it back. Could someone fix this? Thanks. Timrem 02:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Not an Internet Explorer problem. I use Safari and it shows up similar to this way too.  Some underlying technology that Sandbot looks for needs to be modified to fix it.  -- WC  Quidditch   &#9742;   &#9998;  15:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Template
...so what IS the template? Is it the 'locked' sign?


 * no 67.81.33.18 21:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

lb equiv
please add lb:Wikipedia:Sandkaul to interwiki, thx. --Briséis 18:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Sandbot
There is currently a link in the sandbox header that is supposed to manually reset the sandbox; since Sandbot is offline (and has been almost two weeks), it obviously doesn't work. EssjayBot is currently filling in, and has manual resets for the sandboxes (links are on the bot's userpage); could someone with a bit better idea of exactly what will be being changed incorporate the correct manual reset link(s) or a link to the resets on the bot's page? Thanks, Essjay   ( Talk )  07:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Too long?
Anyone else think this is too long? Taking up half the screen for a template on the sandbox that you can't edit would seem to discourage goofer-arounders (who are likely trying to become productive-editor-ers). Thoughts? Karwynn (talk) 23:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

That's true. The sandbox header should be small enough that users will read the whole thing before they realize what they're doing and won't have to pay attention to it later on. Also, it would be nice if it didn't include with the sandbox templates, so that picky nested templates I make wouldn't complain about that big table. As it is, I generally place noinclude tags around the header every time I use the sandbox. --Brilliand 05:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, the information there is amazingly useful for users who are willing to put the work into dealing with the big thing. Perhaps there should be separate sandbox pages for havign the template at the top and not having the template at the top? --Brilliand 05:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Link to sandbox
The link to sandbox on the template goes to a disambiguation page. Perhaps it could bc changed to Sandbox_(software_development) so that it goes to the correct article. M a  rtinp23  09:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. How's this for an improvement; change:


 * This page is a virtual sandbox on Wikipedia. For uses of sandboxes, see the article sandbox.
 * to read:


 * This page is a virtual sandbox on Wikipedia. For uses of virtual sandboxes, see the article sandbox (software development).
 * or something shorter, if you can think of it (whilst remaining clear)? -- Quiddity (talk) 04:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Slander?
I propose that we remove the word slanderous from this template. It means the same as libelous, which is on there, but is spoken instead of written. Although Wikipedia does have spoken content, that can still be considered libel. Also, the sandbox doesn't usually contain spoken content. FL a RN (talk) 19:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

eu interwiki
Please, add the next interwiki if it is possible: eu:Wikipedia:Proba orria. Thanks. 83.34.77.65 15:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * done. — xaosflux  Talk  18:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Request to correct ga interwiki
Can someone correct the ga link to ga:Vicipéid:Clár dubh please? --Kwekubo 18:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

time duration until reset
The hidden text on the Sandbox indicates that it's cleaned automatically every two minutes, but the header says twelve hours...which is correct? If the header is incorrect, could someone please fix that? Thanks! — K e  akealani  07:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

"Click here" links
Please could someone able to edit make link text more descriptive, "click here" means nothing out of context, such as in a list of links (screen readers & general accessibility). For example: "To edit, click [ here]..." would be better as something like; "[ Edit this page]" -- Lee Carré 05:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

New Sandbox Project
Could we please add a link to a wikigame that I have moved as a subpage of the sandbox? It can now be found at: Sandbox/World's Longest Poem. Thanks. -AtionSong 22:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This template is the wrong place to include such a link. Not sure there is a correct place, but this isn't it. —Doug Bell talk 19:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * What about the other "projects" that are linked to on the template? How is this any different? -AtionSong 23:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I was mistaken. I will add the link in a bit.  It looks like some refactoring of these templates is in order since the same links are included in four templates. —Doug Bell talk 00:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. Also added to other three sandbox templates listed at the top of this talk page. —Doug Bell talk 07:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Suggested wikification change for "For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage."
Hi. Please change the wikification from "For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage." to "For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage." The code would change from "For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage." to "For a sandbox of your own, create a user subpage." Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 01:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅ Done. – Luna Santin  (talk) 09:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Interwiki
Someone brought up on the villiage pump that the sandbox needs the following interwiki link: I assume this is done via this template. ~  ONUnicorn (Talk problem solving 22:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * hr:Wikipedija:Stranica za vježbanje

✅ This interwiki link is already present in the template. Sandstein 05:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Arabic Wikipedia interwiki
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I would like to request the addition of the interwiki link

ar:قالب:من فضلك اترك هذا السطر ولا تعدله (عنوان ساحة اللعب)

Just copy the code and it will work. Please note that the Arabic language is written from right to left. Thank you. --Meno25 01:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, unicode. :p You may want to check and make sure I didn't mess it up, but I think it looks okay (the page on the other end looks lot more like a template than a "this page doesn't exist" message, at least to some poor sap like me who knows nothing of the other wiki. – Luna Santin  (talk) 19:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Please correct. The above link is for the template; not for the sandbox..the correct link would be ar:ويكيبيديا:ساحة اللعب btw, a semi is sufficient.--The Joke 12:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

✅ Done. --Meno25 19:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Reset links
Links to Essjaybot resets (now disabled) of sandboxes are still on this template. Please replace this section:

with this section, which uses Sandbot resets:

Thanks! timrem 05:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done - Harryboyles 09:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia games
Call me ignorant of wikipedia news, but are the games (ie word association and dead end) deleted? --Umalee 00:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * References to them were deleted in this edit 14:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC) by JzG (Talk | contribs), without discussion. :( They ("Sandbox Projects") were as follows:
 * Poetry (deleted by Jeffrey O. Gustafson (Talk | contribs) 06:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC) per this log after some discussion)
 * World's Longest Poem
 * Word Association
 * Dead End
 * Storytelling (NEW!)
 * — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 20:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Requested Edit
editprotected

Please add WP:SANDBOX to the list of shortcuts. Thank you. Doorspace 01:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. Does someone need to update the cached master copy? By the way, pleae put the editprotected tag right beside your request. CMummert · talk 12:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Another shortcut requested edit
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I think it would be a good idea to add to the template so people know of one of the quick ways to get to the sandbox. Simply south 12:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Not done (that shortcut is there already). --ais523 12:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

One more
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WP:SBX. I use this one the most, myself. &mdash; SheeEttin {T/C} 22:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done. (At least testing changes to this template is particularly easy, because I don't have to reset the Sandbox afterwards!) --ais523 14:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Template documentation
editprotected This template should have documentation consistent with Interwiki doc page pattern and Sample. — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 00:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I moved the docs to a subpage, where you can edit them. CMummert · talk 15:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Template sandbox
editprotected

Could someone please add the template sandbox to the "Try other sandboxes" list? Thanks, KissL 09:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Does it have a reset link with Sandbot, and if not, do we want to advertise it? (By the way, X1 to X9 are all template sandboxes, so the template sandbox template is a bit redundant, even though it's been around for ages.) --ais523 09:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * (I've disabled editprotected pending a response. --ais523 13:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC))

Sandbox automatically cleaned every 12 hours
editprotected

Please change "every hour" to "every 12 hours" with an edit to the template. does clean each sandbox every 12 hours, although reset to the sandbox header and a hidden comment at approximately 00:00 (UTC). 75.61.235.132 07:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done --ais523 09:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Link for Manual Reset
editprotected

I don't think it works. Can someone remove it? Hanoi Girl → Please sign! 21:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done The relevant bot isn't working at the moment, so the link will have no effect. I've removed the link, but any admin should feel free to add it again if and when Sandbot becomes active. --ais523 08:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Plainlinks
editprotected Add this code before the link code to 'here' and   after to remove the little box. The code will be  [ here]  and will look like:  [ here] . JacroeBlank 21:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. I thought something was broken, it turns out the "simple" skin doesn't include the plainlinks class. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 15:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Interwikis not included
I'm not sure if that is intended or not..but if you notice the sandbox..there are no interwiki links on it (they appear on the template only).. if that is an intended behavior, may I know the reasoning behind it? if it isn't and it is a problem (as I see it)..you can fix it by doing that:
 * 1) Add a in Template:Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading)/doc.. add it on the beginning of the page and before ...
 * 2) Change to  in Template:Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading)--Alnokta 05:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Request to add a shortcut WP:TEST
editprotected

Now that WP:TEST has been to Sandbox, it might be worthy to add a shortcut notice of WP:TEST inside this template, to help people to make quick tests. (In my opinion, WP:TEST is in many cases the first shortcut to try if you intend to make a test edit.)

(Note that I removed WP:SBX from the box, but I didn't touch the redirect. It is unlikely for people to remeber such a redirect, if there is a shorter one to use, WP:SB reducing one letter. Some people used for WP:SBX could still use it.)

~Iceshark7 17:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Wondering if this could use a little trimming, beyond that, but not sure what changes would be most suitable. – Luna Santin  (talk) 20:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Reset
Reset buttons are still there and they all don't work. I think they should be deleted:

Main Sandbox | Tutorial Sandbox 1 (reset) | Tutorial Sandbox 2 (reset) | Tutorial Sandbox 3 (reset) | Tutorial Sandbox 4 (reset) | Tutorial Sandbox 5 (reset) SLSB  talk ER 18:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * All removed, as they are broken. — xaosflux  Talk  00:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Re-opened, as Template:Please leave this line alone (tutorial sandbox heading) still needs to be fixed (reset links removed). Thanks. --Quiddity 20:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Also, please add a noincluded "Category:Sandbox templates" to each of the 4 templates listed at the top of this page. Thanks. --Quiddity 20:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. These templates probably need a bit more maintenance done to them now that they are no longer regularly synched. --- RockMFR 00:20, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Reset button
What happened to the reset button and why? Simply south 18:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * See above, Template talk:Please leave this line alone (sandbox heading).--Sunny910910 (talk 01:35, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Couldn't they be sorted and reinserted? Simply south 19:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by sorted and reinserted, they dont work.--Sunny910910 (talk 22:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * They used to up until recently. Simply south 22:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It might be better to leave it like that until someone finds a way to fix it.--Sunny910910 (talk 22:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Assistance requested
I've asked for assistance in getting a stable solution to the Sandbox reset problem, at Bot owners' noticeboard. --Quiddity 20:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding "X0" sandbox
editprotected

Please add to Sandbox and its template links to sub-sandbox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:X0 and add robot maintenance support to this sub-sandbox to make all one-digit sandboxes present. Wikinger 11:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Admins can't just add bot maintenance support to a sandbox by editing it. You may want to post at Bot owners' noticeboard for the bot maintenance request; once that support is enabled, reactivate the request here. --ais523 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Template sandbox
You should link that to the Sandbox. Sandbot is gone, so you really ought to. —70.240.107.183 (talk) 21:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)