Template talk:Sandbox heading/Archive 5

Purge
I think a link would be helpful on the sandbox heading.

Trivial edits
Please replace the  before the reset link with. And I think it would look neater if the link was surrounded with span tags of the plainlinks class as in:

please add yi wiki link
yi:מוסטער:זאמדקאסטן

Rcats needed
 ­This redirect  needs Rcats (redirect categories) added. Please modify it as follows:
 * from this...
 * 1) REDIRECT Template:Sandbox heading
 * to this...
 * 1) REDIRECT Template:Sandbox heading

Template Redr is a shortcut for the This is a redirect template, which is itself a shortcut used to add categories to redirects. Thank you in advance! –  Paine Ellsworth   C LIMAX ! 08:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * WHEN YOU COPY & PASTE, PLEASE LEAVE THE MIDDLE LINE BLANK FOR READABILITY.
 * Yes check.svg Done. Steel1943 (talk) 15:37, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Steel1943! –  Paine Ellsworth   C LIMAX ! 17:24, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request
Could someone please edit the code such that Category:Wikipedia editing aids also trigger if the template is being transcluded onto Draft:Sandbox?  It Is Me Here  t /  c  22:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done  Anon 126   (talk - contribs) 21:12, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Added a clause to the No Libel line
I added a clause stating "In addition, please do not redirect the sandbox." There have been a few cases where users redirect the sandbox, and then all of the links to the sandbox stating "here is a place to edit freely" get used to unintentionally vandalize... or at the very least confuse the editor. Cbrittain10 (talk&#124;contribs) 17:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2015
Ajimco (talk) 11:40, 6 December 2015 (UTC) If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Given the nature of this page, you will also need to reach consensus before any significant changes are implemented. - Arjayay (talk) 17:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
 * ❌ as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Template:Sandbox heading.

Sandbox image
The logo in the main WP sandbox at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox does not show a sandbox. It shows a sandpile. I would prefer something like the graphic. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * While I understand where you are going with this, the pic you suggest is too detailed to make any sense in the size that would be used in the heading. See for yourself. Nor do I think is it appropriate in representing WP users/editors since the persons shown in it are all white and the setting very European. The pic for the sandbox needs to be a neutral graphic representation of some sort to be readily recognized on all devices, including cell phones, the WP (and the sandbox) can be displayed on. w.carter -Talk  14:25, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Several suggested changes
A few ideas: I've put up a suggestion on the sandbox heading's sandbox (it contains all above changes). What to people think of each/any of these? T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)talk 11:05, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Draft:Sandbox seems a more logical link than User:Sandbox, since draft-space is more closely related to editing than userspace. Additionally, editing User:Sandbox displays a somewhat confusing notification about how the username already exists.
 * 2) I think that the default for Wiki Markup says "Edit source" now.
 * 3) Is there a reason why we link to both User:Sandbox and mw:VisualEditor:Test for users to test VisualEditor? mw:VisualEditor:Test may be superfluous.
 * 4) Perhaps the two alternative modes of editing (Markup/VisualEditor) could be made clearer though button-style formatting?
 * 5) Although it's the usual style, indenting the italicised bottom sentence looks a little odd.


 * I've gone ahead and implemented point #1, since I think it's probably uncontroversial. I'll wait until people have had a chance to voice opinions before doing any of the larger suggested changes. T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)talk 23:50, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Since there's been no outpouring of dissent, I'll be bold and make the changes. I'm happy to go through some revert/refine cycles if there are issues with them! T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)talk 11:29, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2016
124.122.106.60 (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  08:09, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2016
Please move the template to the /doc subpage.

95.49.109.237 (talk) 19:24, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Can't see any way this has consensus or would be done. Documentation is standard practice. — Andy W.  ( talk  · ctb) 20:23, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I meant 95.49.109.237 (talk) 21:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Andy W.  ( talk  · ctb) 21:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Limitation
Although I totally agree with 's edit, I have had to revert it because WP:sandbox can't be edited with visual editor (a ridiculous limitation for the main testing page). Trying to use VE on WP:sandbox just causes it to error, which would be confusing for new users. Ideally, I'd like to see Draft:sandbox be made the main sandbox, since it's far more versatile. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 03:51, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2016
the visual editor button goes to edit Draft Sandbox instead correct immediately

180.151.239.70 (talk) 11:42, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the Wikipedia:Sandbox cannot be edited with VisualEditor, so clicking the button to use VisualEditor defaults to Draft:Sandbox in stead. One solution would be to scrap Wikipedia:Sandbox all together and redirect everyone to the more functional Draft:Sandbox. To my understanding, there are no features present in Wikipedia:Sandbox that are not possible in Draft:Sandbox. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 22:48, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Not an admin issue - If you want to make suggestions to the infrastructure - got to Village pump Ron h jones (Talk) 01:28, 1 November 2016 (UTC)r
 * ❌ as VE is designed not to link to a sandbox that cannot be edited with VE - Arjayay (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2016
SAZI (talk) 12:06, 1 November 2016 (UTC) If you want to suggest a change, please request this on the talk page of the relevant article in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:19, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to Template:Sandbox heading.

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2016
WANT TO EDIT THE CONTENT 115.249.115.229 (talk) 11:35, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. or you can create an account and wait to be autoconfirmed or confirmed then you can edit this page yourself. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  11:50, 10 December 2016 (UTC).

Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2016
please change  to   because it recovers the old image 95.49.108.115 (talk) 18:44, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌. In order for that to happen, there has to be consensus for a change. You may start a discussion if you want, but until consensus is reached for a change, it won't happen. JudgeRM   (talk to me)  19:24, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Save changes -> Publish changes
The wiki-wide change implemented by WMF on 11 December 2017, which saw the renaming of the blue "Save changes" button to "Publish changes" in both source and visual editors, means that many help pages, templates and some graphics are now out of date. I hope anyone who maintains this page/template will update "Save page" to "Publish page" as soon as possible. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:32, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

VE link error
Within the source code for this template, there is the following section:

To edit this sandbox, you can either edit the source code ("[ ]" tab above) or use VisualEditor ("[ ]" tab above). Then make your changes, and click the "" button when finished. You can click "'" to see a preview of what you are about to save, or "'" to see what you have changed.

However, while the "edit source" (text based) link works perfectly, the "edit" (VisualEditor) link does not work properly. Rather than always linking to the VisualEditor for that page, it always links to "Draft:Sandbox|veaction=edit“. I believe this should instead be "FULLPAGENAME|vaction=edit}}", however I did not want to edit the template itself in case I was wrong.


 * note that the "FULLPAGENAM" should be surrounded by double curly braces

--DannyS712 (talk) 22:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2019
1.46.40.129 (talk) 04:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 04:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Shohag islam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shohag islam bd (talk • contribs) 16:05, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2019
PERSTRONG/HESMASR Забор

- за закрытой дверью лежало "Воронячье Перо" и маленькая надпись Мусор, это http://dreamscity.combats.com. - существует четыре от рождения проклятые характеристики которые влияют на формирование метаболизма (метаболизм третья и может быть самая важная в этом, в игровом плане www.combats.ru, ловкость конкурирует с интуицией - клановым воинам соответственно (соотносится) Волшебство - обладателям сфер дикая агрессия) и три основных вспомогательных навык ТОВН-RSN (я называю эту систему именно так). - у каждого персонажа есть следующяя отличительная особенность: он должен быть связан со своим смайлом (т.е. он должен приносить удачу, например у меня таких смайлов уже больше пяти, на счёт питомцев я не ничего не могу сказать это уже имеет большее отношение к деньгам и их накоплению). - здесь класс воина лучника разделяются. - смайл должен быть связан с Ангелом, запечатан. - доспехи Восприятия (Вознесение) и появляется Энтропия (смутный параметр но он очень может быть полезен будущим клановым руководителям). - Параметр и Особенность...

Таким образом мы видим, что именно начинающие бойцы с их не т.с. предвзятой точкой зрения принимают наибольшее участие в формировании игрового пространства, а это так так свойственно Бойцовскому Клубу - "за закрытой дверью". Напротив комнат Хорадримов. И растягивают городскую пыль. Забор. Пыль. Хорадримов. - так начинается история городов, ведь их, такого класса, всего 13. Продолжением внутригородского формирования переходит в другую стадию, растягивания территориальных владений (это влияет на формирование торговой карты) за которым следует образование ВЫХОДОВ, т.е. ловкость с интуицией глубоко зарыты. И также происходит процесс растягивания (свойство большой карты). А, пригород..., уменьшается в территории... время показало 12:10... Из этих выходов и выбираются молодые бойцы попадая в Эмеральд если не брать во внимание они минуют Демонс в который отправляются хаосники (боты) - это слишком дорогая графа стоящяя на первом месте к снижению их кол-ва, за ними следит Комментатор. Таким образом места их обитания пронзительно одинаковые. В Демонс в отличие от Дрим или от Кэпитал параметр характеристики плавающий 4- -8-17. Такую сложную витиеватую дорогу прорисовывает на Девил. Забытое Время Выходов и когда торговые пути и игровые выходы пересекаются происходит самое интересное.

HESMASR[PERSTRONG ] X zmey x (talk) 15:15, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template . Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. Please also note that this is the English Wikipedia. If you would like to ask that content be added to an article on this wiki, you should make the request in English if possible. A Russian Wikipedia does exist, located at . &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 17:30, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2019
Najha99 (talk) 19:41, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --   LuK3      (Talk)   19:43, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2020
ILACHOSA (talk) 14:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: Article content removed. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 15:24, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template . Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 15:24, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Add Documentation (sort of) header
I am autoconfirmed to clear up the confusion, but don't you think that people editing the sandbox can delete the top header of the sandbox? That's a problem. I think we should do something like the Documentation template for templates to protect that. I can do it but I need to ask about your opinion.

3125ATalk!Contributions! 14:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Way too many shortcuts
The template as it stands lists a frankly ridiculous seven "shortcut" redirects to help people navigate to the sandbox. I think this is completely overkill and it just makes the header look cluttered and confusing, we don't need to add every all caps redirect in existence in the shortcuts box. The seven links currently included are WP:SB, WP:SAND, WP:SANDBOX, WP:TEST, WP:TESTING, WP:FOO and WP:FOOBAR. I think that this should be trimmed down to just one or two links, my preference would be WP:SB and WP:SAND. WP:SANDBOX and WP:TESTING are not good shortcuts because they are just as long as the page title, while WP:FOOBAR saves only one character, and I don't think WP:TEST, WP:TESTING, WP:FOO and WP:FOOBAR are as intuitive as the shortcut redirects that are actually related to the page's title. Thoughts? 192.76.8.77 (talk) 22:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Good point, the latter four are also not used often despite being shown as possible shortcuts in the template, so little is lost by their removal. I have boldly deleted them . 15 (talk) 16:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)