Template talk:Television episode short description

two problems

 * 1) This template shouldn't mix numerals and words. For instance, here it generates "1st episode of the eighth season of Game of Thrones". That should either be "First episode of the eighth season" or "1st episode of the 8th season". Given this is a  description, I would go with the latter.
 * 2) At least in the case above—Winterfell (Game of Thrones episode)—the given short description is redundant because the disambiguation tag already includes the series name. The proper short description for an article titled "Winterfell (Game of Thrones episode)" would simply be "1st episode of the 8th season". So really this template needs to be smart enough to look at the article title, note if the series name is included in a disambiguation tag, and omit it from the short description if it is present.
 * So the short description for Duty and Honor should be "7th episode of the 1st season of The Americans" but the short description for The Oath (The Americans) should be "12th episode of the 1st season".

—Joeyconnick (talk) 05:27, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Both are easily changeable, but I would appreciate if you could make this request at Template:Infobox television episode as a previous discussion there was the basis for the creation of this template. And I'm pretty sure much less eyes are watching this template. --Gonnym (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Inclusion of articles
Should the articles "a", "an", and "the" be dropped from the short descriptions here? Short descriptions seem to not include them as a matter of style (consider for example, if articles were included it would be "A international catalog", "A specialized agency", "A Swiss non-profit", "A system of interlinked hypertext", "The 16th President of the United States", etc.) Here are the changes that I propose to the relevant section:

— Goszei (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I missed it before, but WP:HOWTOSD actually says this explicitly: "avoid initial articles (A, An, The)". — Goszei (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That was edited pretty recently and I couldn't find any discussion on the talk page regarding it, which seems to mean that its consensus is questionable. That said, I don't have any preference so if you want to change it (and handle any backlash, if incoming), go for it. If you do change, you need to update Module:Television episode short description/testcases. --Gonnym (talk) 10:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I've made the changes to the sandbox, and the testcases using the sandbox are showing up as intended. I don't have template-editor rights, so could you do the honors? Ping me once it is updated and I will revise the documentation at Template:Television episode short description. — Goszei (talk) 21:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * done! --Gonnym (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Limited series considerations
For episodes of television part of a limited series, the "season/series" parameter isn't a necessary qualifier for the infobox (see WandaVision episodes). I don't see a case that would handle episode-only. - 15:15, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 May 2021
Change all instances of %s to "%s". This template is attempting to create italics in short descriptions, which is unfortunately impossible (wiki markup doesn't work in short descriptions). Sdrqaz (talk) 01:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)


 * What about removing the quotation marks entirely and just using %s? This seems to be the prevailing style for "Fictional character in $media" short descriptions, and is most simple. — Goszei (talk) 01:30, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you think that's best, I have no objections; I just dislike having a broken double single inverted comma across all these pages. Sdrqaz (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that the status quo is bad. To the TPER responder: if no one else weighs in here, how about we try my solution? — Goszei (talk) 02:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If it's not rendered, it can be removed. It can always be brought back if it becomes enabled. --Gonnym (talk) 10:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have removed all of the non-working italic markup that I could find. Ping me if it is still rendering somewhere. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It appears to be still rendering on pages like Lisa with an 'S'. Sdrqaz (talk) 13:40, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do a null save. --Gonnym (talk) 14:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Appears to be working now, thanks. I had purged the cache multiple times before, so I wasn't sure why it wasn't working. Sdrqaz (talk) 14:45, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I had the same challenge. A purge is usually sufficient to refresh a page, but I had to do a null edit (click edit and then publish without changing anything) to get the pages to refresh. The job queue will refresh all of them eventually (it can take from minutes to months, depending on the job queue's mood). – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2021 (UTC)