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Elbowgate
The "Elbowgate" incident isn't mentioned in Justin Trudeau's biography as of February 11, 2022.

Even in the article for Ruth Ellen Brosseau, it's not mentioned until 1523 words in.

What amounts to trivia at this point is fine in the Justin Trudeau template, but is being given undue weight in the article series, so I'm removing it. -- Zanimum (talk) 20:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Canadian Indian residential school gravesites
Unlike Elbowgate, this is a series topic. However, the article on the gravesites mentions Trudeau only once, in the "Reactions" section, 3331 words in, or roughly half way.

More importantly, while the discovery happened during his time in office, he was neither the cause or effect, beyond flag lowering and committing federal funds. This was a result of actions taken under previous Prime Ministers. -- Zanimum (talk) 20:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Do we need this?
What do we need this template for, if it's not used in the articles listed? For example, of the 13 articles listed under the 43rd and 44th Parliaments section, only two actually use the sidebar, and I am doubting either of the two actually should. I am asking because the sidebar has just been removed from the 2023 Canadian wildfires article because it is giving WP:UNDUE weight to topic (with which I agree). Renerpho (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Would vote for deletion as a nav aid its a duplication or redundant to Justin Trudeau. American political articles have these spammed all over....we (Canada) only have two Template:Harper sidebar both made by a banned editor User:Charles lindberg. Link spam at its worst in my view and is discouraged by MOS:LEADELEMENTS ="" as talked about at November 2020 RfC. Have removed it many times from main Justin Trudeau page...mostly add by Charles sockpuppets...hes still with us but does not try this anymore. Moxy -Maple Leaf (Pantone).svg 04:01, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am also wondering why we need this template. It seems tangentially related to many of the articles it appears on, and there is no clear indication why five politicians in the history of Canada and its provinces have one.
 * Adding it to some pages suggests that the article was written from a position biased towards or focused on Canada. For example, on the Canada–Philippines waste dispute article, the addition of this sidebar suggests that the dispute was caused by Trudeau. Without a corresponding sidebar for Duterte (which I'm not suggesting), the article does not appear neutral or international.  This seems to occur in other articles on Canada's international relations.
 * On domestic affairs, the events listed on the template, such as the Nova Scotia shootings and the 2023 wildfires, are not always clearly related to government policies or to Trudeau himself. The sidebar does not appear (and should not appear) on those pages, but it is unclear why those pages are linked in the sidebar.
 * Similarly, there seems to be bias in the way that political events are dealt with. For example, no other sidebar has a separate section for scandals and controversies - those events are integrated into the list of events - but it appears on this sidebar. Without a clear framework for what types of events should be listed on sidebars and what shouldn't, which politicians should have one, and what pages they should be added to, political sidebars can too easily become partisan. Careless lemon (talk) 20:32, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

inclusion criteria?
I find it hard to believe that the Canada–Philippines waste dispute is so important to Justin Trudeau that it needs inclusion here. —  Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 21:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)