Template talk:Turkish cuisine/old

Template too imposing in article pages
Why, when most templates uses a folding horizontal bar at the bottom of the page, does Turkish cuisine need a large vertical bar including a photo? It takes up too much space in the page it is inserted into (I found this template via Bulgar wheat). Template:Cuisine of Cyprus provides an example of how to do this properly. GyroMagician (talk) 06:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * the format was a navbox before late 2011. I recreated the navbox format in Cuisine of Turkey, and will ask for a history merge.  feel free to switch from the sidebar to the navbox where appropriate. Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This is much better! (and impressively large - I had no idea there was so much Turkish cuisine info on WP) GyroMagician (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The side bar is overly large and has too many headings, it needs to be reworked. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:31, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeremy. As you've spotted, I raised the question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink - lots of pages seem to be affected, so let's try to keep the discussion focussed there. To your specific comment here, I don't think the problem is that the Turkish Cuisine project has too many headings - I think it should be applauded - the problem is that the sidebar template is the wrong format. As a horizontal bar at the bottom of the page it works nicely. GyroMagician (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

well see Template:Greek cuisine. I believe they are basicly same, i mean they both colored, pictured,and have large quantities of pages inside them ? KazekageTR (talk) 19:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * the better idea would be to use the navbox version for all of these, since there is so much duplication with template:Cuisine of Turkey. no need to have both the sidebar and the navbox on the same page.  once you start putting more than one on a page, it's better to use the navbox, instead of the sidebar (e.g., see İskender kebap). Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, like i said in the other templates talk page, lets just delete the other one. The other one is useless. But this one is OK.

I completely agree with Frietjes and GyroMagician. This template is very disturbing. I expressed my opinion on the talk page of the other template and repeat it here for completeness. Normally, there should be no more than one infobox on a page. The Pilaf page has already four infoboxes due to templates of this kind. KazekageTR even removed a meaningful illustration from that page, in order to place this infobox there. If such infobox is done for each national cuisine, then one has to place may be 10 of them on the Pilaf page (e.g. Greek, Uzbek, Tajik, Azerbayjan, Armenian cuisine etc.)! The navbars at the bottom are much more appropriate for this purpose. You can place as many of them as necessary without disturbing the text. Off-shell (talk) 21:26, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Then we have to do it for all of those cusine sidebars. cause iranian greek and armenian cuisine templates are sidebars too. we have to convert all to navbars. its not fair to remove only the turkish one. KazekageTR (talk) 08:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You are surely right. This should be done for all such sidebars. Off-shell (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

should we start a workgroup for converting these sidebars? KazekageTR (talk) 07:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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I've updated the color scheme and added new sections to the template. And this is the best picture among all those 'sofra' pics. Please dont change anything before we talk it in here. Lütfen burada tartışmadan hiçbirşey değiştirmeyin. KazekageTR (talk) 23:15, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've just fully protected the article for one week per this request. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you sir! KazekageTR (talk) 20:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted the absolutely screaming colour scheme. I don't object to rather soft colours, but this scheme will be distracting from the contents in the article itself. The Banner talk 21:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Then change it to darker red. Do not remove all the red color.It is Turkish cuisine and it has to have red and white.KazekageTR (talk) 14:22, 3 December 2013 (UTC)KazekageTR (talk) 14:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I think WP:BRD is in order. The strong red colour was boldly added, and was then reverted as disputed. The next step is to discuss its inclusion here before restoring it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you explain to me why it has to have red and white? Food had more colours than that and we serve an worldwide encyclopaedia without space for nationalistic symbols. But most important: the choices for you made were absolutely screaming and distracting. The Banner talk 15:34, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Choosing colours
The present pink looks a bit like a band-aid. The red is incredibly overpowering. Can we all find a nice compromise?

Some nice links to get us started:
 * Color picker
 * Color wheel
 * List of colors: A–F
 * List of colors: G–M
 * List of colors: N–Z

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

well could you suggest a tone of red then please Ms. Frodesiak ??? but like i said to The Banner, it has to have red color, like the Greek one has blue and the Canadian templates has red and white.KazekageTR (talk) 14:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm happy with a red. I'll let you and others suggest something. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

a different red perhaps an idea? The Banner talk 15:43, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

how is that red ? by the way i think we should stick to the red which is on the Turkish flag. How bout that ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KazekageTR (talk • contribs) 16:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You have many colours of red. I must admit that the present shade of red is far less screaming and distracting. Do we have a deal on that shade? The Banner talk 19:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I like what's in the navbox right now. Red, but not so dark that the black lettering is hard to see. Not so bright that bulls rush into the room and attack the monitor. Seems good to me. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2013 (UTC)