Template talk:Welcomenh

link to welcome
Please add the following: &lt;noinclude> &#123;{subst:user:zondor/srt}} ==See also== * &#91;[Template:Welcome]] &lt;/noinclude> -- Zondor 04:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Done.  howch e  ng   {chat} 18:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

there is more. should the following be added? &lt;noinclude> &#123;{subst:user:zondor/srt}} ==See also== * &#91;[Template:Welcome]] * &#91;[Template:Welcome2]] * &#91;[Template:Welcome3]] * &#91;[Template:Welcome4]] * &#91;[Template:Welcome5]] * &#91;[Template:Welcomenh]] &lt;/noinclude> -- Zondor 14:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Done.  howch e  ng   {chat} 07:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Fix template
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Have the directly after the non-breaking space on the same line and with no space in between, I experimented with it and doing this solves a problem where a space is put after the template. Thanks! --WikiSlasher 04:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually replace the text in the main part so that it is the same as Welcome but without the bold header. --WikiSlasher 05:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Done.  J Di  talk 17:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposed wording change
Please see Template_talk:Welcome - SCEhard T 02:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Documentation
Could an administrator transclude the documentation subpage to the main template? Thanks.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   348° 59' 30" NET   23:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   01:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Could an administrator change this  to this  at Template:Welcomenh? My first request was misunderstood. Thanks.  Set Sail For The Seven Seas   246° 1' 30" NET   16:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ WOSlinker (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Nonsensical message in code
In the template source code, it says the following: Hello, I can't find the "talk" it references. It's not on this page, nor any archives; after I traced it back to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Welcomenh&oldid=94918992&diff=prev this 17 December 2006 revision] I thought maybe it was the commenter's talk, but [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:J_Di&oldid=178550250 the December 17th revision of their talk] and their December 2007 archive shows nothing about it.

Doesn't make any sense to me. and most others use subst:/safesubst:/ and they're fine. It should be substituted to help new users understand: see the Welcometest page.

Not going to get my hands dirty this time; not feeling exceptionally WP:BOLD at the moment. Meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Did [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061220153939&limit=500&tagfilter=&contribs=user&target=J+Di&namespace=2&nsInvert=1&associated=1 a little more digging] and found [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Welcomenh&diff=prev&oldid=94919065 this] to be (his) next edit. Meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 05:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the key lies in
 * If it was copied from the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Welcome&oldid=90578768 November 2006 revision] of Template:Welcome then the note refers to the thread on Template talk:Welcome, not here!
 * Over at Template:Welcome, the insertion of that note first appeared [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=61205736 26 June 2006], meaning “see talk” was referring to the then-current [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Welcome&oldid=139207866 19 June 2006 Welcome template talkpage] (not the talkpage I'm on right now). Based on [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Welcome&action=history&offset=20060629160736&limit=10 the changes to Template:Welcome around that time] the person who wrote that cautionary comment is referring to conversations such as this and edits such as [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=60718411 this], where people tried various methods to substitute but were thwarted. Assuming it was available at the time, WP:SAFESUBST would have been perfect. Even the supergeeks over at VPT [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_84#safesubst_documentation_does_not_make_sense][//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_95#Please_do_not_.22safesubst.22_templates] barely seemed to understand safesubst due to poor documentation, so I'm guessing it was never used?
 * Piecing all this together after 8 years...
 * The transclusion counts back in 2006 [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Welcome/Archive_6#BASEPAGENAME_or_subst:BASEPAGENAME.3F were 13,000+].
 * Today, thanks to a discussion, AnomieBot now auto-substitutes them. Apparently, at some point someone figured out a way to substitute 10K+ templates. Right now according to Templatecount there are 0 transclusions. Ergo, original comment on Template:Welcomenh (pasted from Template:Welcome) referring to Template talk:Welcome can now be safely ignored as the prohibitively high transclusion count is nonexistent.
 * Conclusion: remove the warning; it's stale. Problem solved. If somebody hates my solution, revert. 'Til then, I think an 8-year-old note about a problem back then isn't worth keeping. Meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 08:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Conclusion: remove the warning; it's stale. Problem solved. If somebody hates my solution, revert. 'Til then, I think an 8-year-old note about a problem back then isn't worth keeping. Meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 08:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)